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Le Tissier's Laces said:
Here's a thing - it's not the combo I would have chosen either. The point is, the board deserve and have earned our trust, and I realise comparatively I'm really just some clueless berk on a football forum. I'm not going to sit here with a gavel saying "this is wrong and dreadful".

It may well turn out to be. Going by past experience of our appointments, chances are it won't. But to sit here and pass judgment and make statements as fact isn't offering an objective opinion, it's shaking your fist at buses.
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Try this post again oh drunk one, and tell me if I'm blindly agreeing with everything Saints do.

(Actually I don't know why I'm bothering. Night).
 
For the record, I had a quick look and I can't see anybody who has said this is a great combination of manager and assistant.

I have read a few say it isn't.

I've read a lot say, let's see how they do.
 
Gucci Mane said:
I'd imagine after being at the club 2 months before being appointed interim manager for a team that was essentially relegated that it would be pretty hard for him to get the players playing for him.
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Good point as ever Gucci. As the sun sets on your current moniker, I've come up with Jay-Z (obvious), M.I.A Yoshida (kinda 2008) &... Prada Prowse (very now, very sexy)
 
fatletiss said:
For the record, I had a quick look and I can't see anybody who has said this is a great combination of manager and assistant.

I have read a few say it isn't.

I've read a lot say, let's see how they do.
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Is it possible to state it doesn't appear to be a great combination of manager and assistant manager, but let's see how they get on?

Possible concerns:
1) If you look at the league record of the sides Puel has managed just before he arrived and after he left, they seem to have overall operated at a higher level when he was not present. He has also never managed outside France.

2) Black has no specific standing in the game for me at the level we currently operate at.

3) Neither man has the status or regard in the game I would have perceived we could have attracted to the role which may prove crucial with attracting some players and/or extending existing contracts.

Possible Benefits:
1) Puel's experience in Europe and regards youth development are definitely plus points.

2) Black is multilingual, and fluent in French.

3) There's some quite exciting talent playing in the French league (or only recently moved from - Gueye at Villa) that we may be better placed to tap into.

4) It's far easier to spot negatives than positives. Every manager we've had previously in our recent history has looked in one way or another underwhelming at the time of appointment, but has succeeded with Saints. Maybe Les Reed & the Black Box can see things that are far better indicators of whether someone should succeed in our structure than we can?

We have concerns, but the club almost certainly know more than we do, so [HASHTAG]#wemarchon[/HASHTAG]
 
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latviandream said:
Is it possible to state it doesn't appear to be a great combination of manager and assistant manager, but let's see how they get on?

Possible concerns:
1) If you look at the league record of the sides Puel has managed just before he arrived and after he left, they seem to have overall operated at a higher level when he was not present. He has also never managed outside France.

2) Black has no specific standing in the game for me at the level we currently operate at.

3) Neither man has the status or regard in the game I would have perceived we could have attracted to the role which may prove crucial with attracting some players and/or extending existing contracts.

Possible Benefits:
1) Puel's experience in Europe and regards youth development are definitely plus points.

2) Black is multilingual, and fluent in French.

3) There's some quite exciting talent playing in the French league (or only recently moved from - Gueye at Villa) that we may be better placed to tap into.

4) It's far easier to spot negatives than positives. Every manager we've had previously in our recent history has looked in one way or another underwhelming at the time of appointment, but has succeeded with Saints. Maybe Les Reed & the Black Box can see things that are far better indicators of whether someone should succeed in our structure than we can?

We have concerns, but the club almost certainly know more than we do, so [HASHTAG]#wemarchon[/HASHTAG]
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You mean lay out some pros and cons in a considered manner without effing and jeffing like the world is at an end? I'm not sure I'd be able to cope with that :)
 
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Good grief. So many swinging handbags on this thread.

I've got a low opinion of this appointment based only on knowing nothing about Puel and knowing more obvious candidates are available many of whom would appear capable of doing a great job.

I've seen nothing in the media or on the web that leads me to think there's something great here waiting to happen and in all the to and fro on here nobody seems to be able to offer anything positive either. Its simply people bemoaning the appointment and those berating them for having a negative opinion.

A positive opinion in the light of no evidence is no more valid than a negative one.

Seems like this is a risky appointment for the board. They've gone for an out-of-left-field appointment in full view of some great options. I was of the opinion that our football had gone downhill under Koeman and that under Poch we were much better to watch. I'm not desperately sad to see him go but I would definately have liked to see a more exciting replacement come in. Here's hoping that our football is good to watch and that we start to see some youth development again.
 
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SaintinNZ said:
Good grief. So many swinging handbags on this thread.

I've got a low opinion of this appointment based only on knowing nothing about Puel and knowing more obvious candidates are available many of whom would appear capable of doing a great job.

I've seen nothing in the media or on the web that leads me to think there's something great here waiting to happen and in all the to and fro on here nobody seems to be able to offer anything positive either. Its simply people bemoaning the appointment and those berating them for having a negative opinion.

A positive opinion in the light of no evidence is no more valid than a negative one.

Seems like this is a risky appointment for the board. They've gone for an out-of-left-field appointment in full view of some great options. I was of the opinion that our football had gone downhill under Koeman and that under Poch we were much better to watch. I'm not desperately sad to see him go but I would definately have liked to see a more exciting replacement come in. Here's hoping that our football is good to watch and that we start to see some youth development again.
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SaintNZ why don't you go back and look at some of the links that were posted about Puel. Some people have posted links to articles giving opinion on Puel.
 
fatletiss said:
SaintNZ why don't you go back and look at some of the links that were posted about Puel. Some people have posted links to articles giving opinion on Puel.
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Yep, I've read them, DLTW posted a great one. He was unknown to me but the traits are pretty positive. A pressing game, done well in France with limited resources at times, has got the best out of Ben Arfa. Taking all that into account, who outside of the club would put their hand on their heart and say they picked Puel over Pellegrini? I'm not saying the board have got the appointment wrong but Puel has a lot to prove. If Pellegrini flopped nobody would have blamed the board. Not sure it will work this way round. This is definately the bravest appointment they've made. Adkins was popular and I was gutted for him when he was replaced with Poch but our results and placings meant Poch had to do little compared to the task ahead of Puel.
 
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I've just woken up, i log in and there's like 10 pages to read on new manager thread, i glanced over some commentrs randomnly, i've no idea what's going on, but it seems we selected Baldric from BLackadder as our manager or something like that :D
 
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