I have no idea, just speculating and probably putting 2 and 2 together and coming up with 16
New Head Coach
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Just scrolling through Maric's twitter account (sure he'll be getting tagged in abuse in no time) and he retweeted this. Obviously it's youth level but you can see the principals of play. Great goal.
Who's he said that to Bob, are you sure the person who told you isn't just gossiping.
Well I can get behind a lad like Maric. Marco Rose is a coach I have a load of time for and Maric worked under him. Bayern are in a transition phase, daft as that may sound, and he was trusted by them with their coaching and football philosophy. Psychology student too, which is very relatable to the modern game and player.
I have long said we need experience in the dug out. In my opinion. I would have opted to go down a different route had I been in charge. That said I am definitely a bit of a footballing dinosaur these days. This has been my last year coaching at a good level and the youngsters coming through need their time and space to take things forward. So in Maric it looks like they have done their homework, chosen the man irrespective of any outside pressure and I am excited to see how it develops. I hope he is here for 3 years and more, that stability and continuity will be great.
One last point, I think he and Dodds may well get on, based on background, and I suspect approach to players. I am sure he will bring in a coach or two, but I wouldnt be surprised if Dodds is on that bench again next season.
I have long said we need experience in the dug out. In my opinion. I would have opted to go down a different route had I been in charge. That said I am definitely a bit of a footballing dinosaur these days. This has been my last year coaching at a good level and the youngsters coming through need their time and space to take things forward. So in Maric it looks like they have done their homework, chosen the man irrespective of any outside pressure and I am excited to see how it develops. I hope he is here for 3 years and more, that stability and continuity will be great.
One last point, I think he and Dodds may well get on, based on background, and I suspect approach to players. I am sure he will bring in a coach or two, but I wouldnt be surprised if Dodds is on that bench again next season.
Maric wouldnt have been my 1st choice but im happy if it is him.
Every appointment is a risk but for me this type of appointment is exciting. I dont want the typical championship manager (a Heckingbottom type), they might be safer appointments but theyll only ever be a championship manager. I want us to go for the type of manager that can grow with the club, managers that have a high ceiling - this guy has that, he is highly rated in German football.
I look at what danny rohl has done at sheff wed, mckenna has done at ipswich and what corbein has done in his career- and i think the unknown can be great
There is always pros n cons to every appointment, his cons are down to never managing a 1st team before - therefore he must nail his coaching staff appointments
I know social media will all be about him being a blogger, but he was a coach 1st and has had to work his arse off to get to where he is now
Every appointment is a risk but for me this type of appointment is exciting. I dont want the typical championship manager (a Heckingbottom type), they might be safer appointments but theyll only ever be a championship manager. I want us to go for the type of manager that can grow with the club, managers that have a high ceiling - this guy has that, he is highly rated in German football.
I look at what danny rohl has done at sheff wed, mckenna has done at ipswich and what corbein has done in his career- and i think the unknown can be great
There is always pros n cons to every appointment, his cons are down to never managing a 1st team before - therefore he must nail his coaching staff appointments
I know social media will all be about him being a blogger, but he was a coach 1st and has had to work his arse off to get to where he is now
Def no abuse on my part mate, hope you didnt take my responses that way
Fair play for actually providing some names of who you would like to see
We arent all going to agree on who the new manager is/should be but i know we will all get behind him
I just hate the term football experience. As someone who is trying to make their way in the game, i have no 'football experience' but i know the game. I see people being employed in roles solely based on what they were like as a player and it annoys me - i didnt play at any high level but doesnt make me less qualified than them
I watch the likes of danny murphy, paul Merson, clint morrison etc trying to analyse games but in my opinion they are totally clueless - only there as they have footballing experience
The best scouts, analysts and coaches I know are guys that have never played at a high level. Its advantage to them as they look at the game differently as the game didnt come easy to them when they played.
Anyway thats my rant over lol
Hope you don't think i was being abusive towards you mate. I know where you are coming from with wanting experience but this sounds like an exciting appointment.
Footballs changing quickly and I accept that. I'm just happy to get someone through the door with assurances and commitment from the board. He's certainly got the credibility, you don't make it at those clubs unless you've got something special
Aye, footballing person isnt the wrong phrase. You're a great poster BTW, nice to be able to chat, rather than people arguing! I do think it's crucial to have had played the game and at a high level though. That doesn't have to be the head coach tho. I think my reservations are more about where we are, rather than the guy himself. Dodds not played before, proctor to a low level. If we get this guy in, I think we need a backroom reshuffle. If someone like a Mowbray, Robins came in, I think they'd do OK within our set up. Hope that makes sense.
Again though, I talk ****e and know very little
I often think some of the drawbacks with managers is that they've played at a "high level" as you call it.
They tend to focus on tried and tested methods to manage a draw/not get beat. It's the creativity that's missing.
Inexperience/freshness encourages new ideas, think Barcelona with tippy tappy football rather than the old fashioned route 1.
Newer managers without the superstars are more likely to let the players be creative. Look at last season for example. Mowbray let the younguns play like it was park football and encouraged them to use their skills and confidence. This season we've seen a more conventional system employed trying not to lose rather than trying to win.
I'll happily support Maric or Still as i think both of them will encourage the players to have fun which as we've seen brings out the best of them
I get what you’re saying. If we get someone who’s walked the walk it’s reassuring. Nobody knows anything really about this bloke so it feels risky. We just have to get behind him and the team until we know the pro’s and cons.
I generally agree but it feels like we’re missing a bit of it as a club, You do learn from having seen it and been there in all walks of life. Playing the game and managing or organising it are different though.
The Training Guru podcast (in 2 parts) are a great listen by the way, I'd highly recommend them.
They were recorded at the end of February too, so recent and up to date.
He's very confident in the way he talks about the game. Not afraid to disagree with approaches by other coaches and their style. I like how he talks about teaching players about the game rather than tactics so that they can respond the right way in the right situation.
His role at Bayern is fascinating to me. I'd love someone to be trying to harness the history of our club and deciding what key philosophies define Sunderland as a club.
He watches a lot of football, especially in England. He name checks the Championship and mentions Martin at Southampton, McKenna at Ipswich and Kompany at Burnley last season who's teams he enjoyed watching.
They were recorded at the end of February too, so recent and up to date.
He's very confident in the way he talks about the game. Not afraid to disagree with approaches by other coaches and their style. I like how he talks about teaching players about the game rather than tactics so that they can respond the right way in the right situation.
His role at Bayern is fascinating to me. I'd love someone to be trying to harness the history of our club and deciding what key philosophies define Sunderland as a club.
He watches a lot of football, especially in England. He name checks the Championship and mentions Martin at Southampton, McKenna at Ipswich and Kompany at Burnley last season who's teams he enjoyed watching.
Nothing wrong with getting the right kind of experience in, thats where him appointing the right coaches will be key to his success
Only won 1 PL title since joining Liverpool so its a no from me lol
Interesting debate the one about having played the game at a high level. My opinion is it should not be a pre-requisite but if they do have the experience, and the attributes needed to be an elite level coach, then it is a major help.
I look at coaches who played elite football. Pep, Arteta, Poch, Kompany, Oneil, Simeone, Zidane, Deschamps, Southgate, Conte. Then from the past we have Cruyff, Ancellotti, Zagallo, Beckenbauer, Dalglish, Souness, Clough. Of course there is equally as long a list of coaches who were never elite players. For me, like you say, a balance can be a really positive thing.
In my experience players react to a coach who can do what he is asking. If you can demonstrate the technique, or body shape, or positional play, it is a really powerful thing. I watched the Derby game yesterday and Paul Warne took the finishing practice in the warm up. I saw Stuart Pearce coaching once and the players couldnt get it, so he showed them what he wanted and it was an electric session after that. When Beale was at Villa he supposedly took the coaching but had McAllister on the pitch with him, talking to players individually when needed. Players are humans and if you have walked in their shoes at some point it can help empathy.
I have also come across ex players who couldnt put on a training session if their job depended on it. Training nowadays is so different to 20 years ago even. It is high intensity, game related without the 11v11. It requires an innovative mind set to instill tactical ideas and formations whilst maintaining a high quality session that keeps player levels high. I know of some very good ex players who cant do that, but like in Gerards case he got himself Beale who could.
All in all I think if it is Maric he could do well if he appointed an ex player to his backroom staff. Just for that ability to have someone talk to a player when going through a bad run, and empathise and discuss how to end it, for example. Or someone who can motivate players from a playing perspective. Who that is I dont l know, but there a plenty of candidates who I think would resonate with players.
speakman potentially going to french club