New Head Coach

[sheepman]

Won’t lie I feel underwhelmed with this appointment and concerned with the negativity of our fans and the fans of clubs that have seen him in action. That being said it’s irrelevant now he’s here, got my backing 100% and looking forward to seeing what he does with this squad.

The positive I’m going to take from his interview is that his failures at rangers sound like they came from areas he had little experience and didn’t particularly want to be involved in. You’d expect here his going to be in charge of one thing only and that’s the coaching side, the area he’s got all his praise and credit in.

2.5 years surprises me, that sees him to the end of KLD/speakmans first 5 years which is the point they want us in the premier league, so they think he’s the man to get us there. Big risk from them so they must have confidence it will work so I’ll take confidence from that. Fingers crossed for 3 points on Saturday and the perfect start for him

This social media stuff is interesting. Twitter and in particular RTG just don't reflect the views of the majority of our fans. Regardless of how much RTG in particular would like to think it does. They tend to normalize a minority view and think the whole world agrees with them. They are wrong. Not a glamourous exciting appointment but absolutely fits the bill as a modern progressive coach. Majority of our fans will quite rightly make their mind up when we see what happens on the pitch. It may all go wrong but there are no guarantees with any appointment

 

[The Professor]

Appointment made & lets move on, others may know more than me but id never heard of some of the foreign coaches being mentioned, my worry with those was the initially would be potentially overwhelmed by size of our club & English game being different, especially lots of games over xmas etc & week in week out.

I don't really get any of the negativity around Beale, he might have struggled at Rangers, dont know if he was classed manager but sounds like he was doing more than just be head coach....were not after a manager.....were not after a head coach to do more than head coach....we have a strong structure & the makings of a very good successful project...if that's what it wants to be called

Beale has a very very impressive coaching record & as impressive if not more than any of those foreign coaches

On that note.. @John 11:35 if yer cud hoy up the details of your earlier post on his coaching career.....does that record as a coach....were after a head coach.....not impress people?

 

[Iain]

Sadly it's becoming all too frequent and often at the drop of a hat ...

... thankfully the home and away crowds will continue to support their club, come what may ...

... despite being accused of accepting, and therefore being responsible for, mediocrity.

I've already stated he wasn't who I wanted , if you'd asked me why I would honestly say because I've never heard of him and I've heard he's a dick other than that I'm not quite sure what I've got against him other than he's not will still who I would have preferred

 

[samwise_new]

well, i thought he sounded like the local vicar

let's face it, apart from a couple of lads on here who tried to give us all some insight into these names that kept cropping up (cheers lads) we know feck all about any of them and the majority are simply going off what they have read about rangers, the job where he was actually doing ok until the owners messed with the staff and gave him more work to do that he did not expect.

i feel sure he will have heard or read some of the comments floating around and be fully aware of his task...i just ask same as i always do when a new player comes in and that is 'give him some time', we might win a couple, we might lose a couple but at least give him the rest of the season afore the pitch forks come (back) out.

 

[FellTop]

Happy with the appointment personally. As a coach he must tick so many boxes for the club. His first interview was good as well I thought. A hands on coach who wants to lead from the front. I think modern day players want what he is offering.

 

[John 11:35]

His record as a developmental coach is very good indeed and he could absolutely do Doddsy’s job.

My reasoning:

1) He’s always been interested in coaching

His playing career ended early at the age of 21. Instead of spending his savings on the usual things a 21 year old lad would, Beale decided to invest in the Brazilian Soccer Schools franchise, aiming to teach young British kids Futsal. Think five-a-side football, but played with a smaller, low-bounce ball to enhance close control and technical ability.

2) He spent 10 years coaching at Chelsea

Working with Jose Mourinho, Carlo Ancelotti and Guus Hiddink, he helped to develop Mason Mount, Callum Hudson-Odoi and Tammy Abraham.

3) Then he went to Liverpool where he really turned heads

Eighteen members of his squad made first-team debuts in the space of two years, including Trent Alexander-Arnold and Curtis Jones.

4) THEN… he moved to Brazil become assistant at São Paulo, he learned Portuguese especially for this. He developed his coaching further working with Rogerio Ceni and coached a young Eder Militao, who ended up joining Real Madrid for over £40m.

5) Gerrard poached him and gave him all coaching responsibilities

“What I'll never do is try to do someone else's job when they are better than me at doing it," Gerrard said on The Robbie Fowler Podcast

6) Another quote:

“A lot of people won't have a clue what Michael Beale does on the training pitch, but what he does is really quite special," said Peter Lovenkrands

7) My opinion.

He’s a fantastic coach with an impressive record in youth development. The only blot on his record is that he tried being a Head Coach with mixed results

There ya go @The Professor

 

[J Flash]

This social media stuff is interesting. Twitter and in particular RTG just don't reflect the views of the majority of our fans. Regardless of how much RTG in particular would like to think it does. They tend to normalize a minority view and think the whole world agrees with them. They are wrong. Not a glamourous exciting appointment but absolutely fits the bill as a modern progressive coach. Majority of our fans will quite rightly make their mind up when we see what happens on the pitch. It may all go wrong but there are no guarantees with any appointment

Absolutely true mate. Never listen to online views just say what i feel. Would say I’m surprised by how negative it has been online mind but as you say I’d be stunned if the crowd on Saturday aren’t 100% behind him and the team.

I remember being delighted and buzzing when we appointed O’Neil, I was convinced moyes was a top quality appointment, means **** all, that’s why I’m not paid to make these big decisions at the club, on field decisions have been mainly very successful in the current regimes short period.

 

[Pure River Slut]

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Feel sorry for him me. Coming into a club no doubt excited to do well with the back drop of an aggressive negativity. Our fans can be the best but this last few days has been a pretty bad look. Hope he gets to see the good bits.

 

[Oliver's Army]

Feel sorry for him me. Coming into a club no doubt excited to do well with the back drop of an aggressive negativity. Our fans can be the best but this last few days has been a pretty bad look. Hope he gets to see the good bits.

I liked the interview tbh. I'm happy with what they have done with Dodds' role and I sounds like Beale is ready to get stuck back into coaching the players rather than being a bit of everything which is what it ended up being like at Rangers by all accounts. I'll back the bloke until the wheels come off, same as I would have done whoever got the job.

 

[Kipper]

His record as a developmental coach is very good indeed and he could absolutely do Doddsy’s job.

My reasoning:

1) He’s always been interested in coaching

His playing career ended early at the age of 21. Instead of spending his savings on the usual things a 21 year old lad would, Beale decided to invest in the Brazilian Soccer Schools franchise, aiming to teach young British kids Futsal. Think five-a-side football, but played with a smaller, low-bounce ball to enhance close control and technical ability.

2) He spent 10 years coaching at Chelsea

Working with Jose Mourinho, Carlo Ancelotti and Guus Hiddink, he helped to develop Mason Mount, Callum Hudson-Odoi and Tammy Abraham.

3) Then he went to Liverpool where he really turned heads

Eighteen members of his squad made first-team debuts in the space of two years, including Trent Alexander-Arnold and Curtis Jones.

4) THEN… he moved to Brazil become assistant at São Paulo, he learned Portuguese especially for this. He developed his coaching further working with Rogerio Ceni and coached a young Eder Militao, who ended up joining Real Madrid for over £40m.

5) Gerrard poached him and gave him all coaching responsibilities

“What I'll never do is try to do someone else's job when they are better than me at doing it," Gerrard said on The Robbie Fowler Podcast

6) Another quote:

“A lot of people won't have a clue what Michael Beale does on the training pitch, but what he does is really quite special," said Peter Lovenkrands

7) My opinion.

He’s a fantastic coach with an impressive record in youth development. The only blot on his record is that he tried being a Head Coach with mixed results

guess what job we’ve given him mate

 

[John 11:35]

guess what job we’ve given him mate

It’s an old post

 

[sheepman]

I saw people on Twitter saying we should go for Potter.

You can’t trust people. People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis.

Best line of the day mate

 

[Richie]

Welcome,and good luck,Mr. Beale

 

[Nonsense Potter]

Feel sorry for him me. Coming into a club no doubt excited to do well with the back drop of an aggressive negativity. Our fans can be the best but this last few days has been a pretty bad look. Hope he gets to see the good bits.

I think you're right, mate. However, you can't have the smooth without the rough. We are the best and the worst fans. That's passion and it's why we get 40k plus attendances.

I've not enjoyed this board castigating fans for voicing their honestly held opinions, recently. MB might be the best thing that has ever happened to the club...but I 100% understand why folk have concerns.

Love this board, but I think on occasion it tends towards contrarianism. We all love the club. Just because the majority aren't on board with a given decision... doesn't mean this board is right.

 

[rowley]

Of course he was. All this narrative of "the clubs failed " "clutching at straws" "doing it on the cheap" is bollox but fills a lot of peoples agenda.
Could go tits up but given the clubs structure looks like a good fit to me

Yep. But it's easy for people to think this, that or the other, in these circumstances.

Nature abhors a vacuum, so it gets filled up with guesswork.

But they do things on the quiet here now mind, so they could easily have been talking to him more or less at the same time as talking to the others.

None of it matters now though. He's our coach, he doesn't have to "win" me over. He's our coach and that's it.

 

[123Daveyboy]

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I feel happier now than I did yesterday

 

[Wes]

Does the appointment show that we are just a development club these days, whether that be players or managers?
We’ll bring people in develop them and send them on their way!
So competing at the top level is a million miles away!

 

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One thing Rangers fans had an gripe about was him setting up not to lose. Interesting to see how that would work here because it’s something I’ve mentioned for a while, we concede at the first given opportunity and where we can’t win we often lose rather than seeing out a draw.

Making us solid at the back will only be a good thing imo, we’ll still create more than enough chances to win games.

How does that theory balance against his record though? That tends to be a phrase to throw at someone who draws too many games, but Beale won 31 of 43 at Rangers and only drew 4.

 

[Scout73]

Does the appointment show that we are just a development club these days, whether that be players or managers?
We’ll bring people in develop them and send them on their way!
So competing at the top level is a million miles away!

No its how you get to the top, we develop players with the aim of keeping some n selling some. With the money you make you then reinvest it hoping for better

Likewiee with head coaches, you are hoping with each appt you improve therefore getting a step closer to the top

Its the most sustainable way of doing it

 

[Bank of England 2]

Sadly it's becoming all too frequent and often at the drop of a hat ...

... thankfully the home and away crowds will continue to support their club, come what may ...

... despite being accused of accepting, and therefore being responsible for, mediocrity.

And that's what matters. Football is about what happens on the park and in the ground, not on a keyboard.