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Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Hoddle is a god, May 26, 2012.

  1. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    The PFA said LFC were in the right, they would probably know a little bit more about the situation than your good self I would assume.
     
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  2. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Completely agree, the market is ridiculous, I'm just pointing out that I personally wouldn't put Suarez in the same price bracket as Bale and Ronaldo, mainly due to the marketing and image issues more so than talent.

    The fee for Shaw is arguably the most ridiculous fee going in world football if reports are true, a great youngster don't get me wrong but he's achieved **** all so far bar a few eye catching performances. Even in terms of investing in the player for the future, £35m-£40m is a ridiculous amount for a LB.
     
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  3. Sir_Red

    Sir_Red Well-Known Member

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    That's because they pinched your only star player...
     
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  4. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    The bottom line is lads if the fee is right he'll go, but like I said in my first post Barca and/or Real might like to think they get who they want for a fee they decide but the reality is LFC(in this case)are in a position of strength and will dictate any fee.
     
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  5. The RDBD

    The RDBD Well-Known Member

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    "I'm just pointing out that I personally wouldn't put Suarez in the same price bracket as Bale and Ronaldo,
    mainly due to the marketing and image issues more so than talent."

    Bale is probably seen by the sensible bods at get Real Madrid as the heir to CR7,
    and will be at the club for a long time. This + Bales' age meant they took the 86m hit.

    Suarez doesn't tick the same boxes for Madrid, so I would expect 65m max.

    Barca OTOH may be in churn, and if they are moving away from pure tika-taka to a
    striker who is the prime and not an afterthought, then a Suarez is a must. Their
    offer would be constrained by Neymar (how much they paid and the relative
    differences in performance during Brasil 2014) .
     
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  6. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    They took Modric the year before.
     
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  7. Tobes

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    You'll get what was agreed as the buyout clause when he signed his new contract.
     
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  8. NSIS

    NSIS Well-Known Member

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    I think that for Suarez it's crunch time. He's 28 in January, he must know that if he's going to make a move that time is running out.
     
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  9. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    The PFA believed that Suarez had a "good faith" clause in his contract rather than an out-and-out release clause, and they came to this conclusion in August 2013. John W Henry stated that Suarez did have an out-and-out release clause in March 2014.

    If you are in any doubt about what a release clause means, here's a pretty good definition: (A release clause) is a clause in a player’s contract that, subject to qualifying conditions (i.e. a particular transfer window or non-participation in the Champions League), automatically requires a club to accept an offer of a pre-determined contractual amount expressly set out in the contract from the offering club. If the minimum amount stipulated in the contract is triggered by a the purchasing club, the player will be entitled to speak to that club. And, no, that definition wasn't from Wikipedia, but the website of a sports lawyer: http://www.danielgeey.com

    Also, Gordon Taylor did not say Liverpool were in the right by any means, as his exact quote was: "If you are going to have a supposed buy-out clause, it should be that - but it is different as it says [that] if there is no qualification for the Champions League and if there is a minimum offer of £40 million, then the parties will get around the table to discuss things. But it does not say the club has to sell." Yet there was no discussion - so, therefore, Liverpool reneged on a clause in Suarez's contract.
     
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  10. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Oh dear.<laugh>

    Wenger found out about the £40m clause through an agent and was told it was a release clause, as we know he offered £40m+£1 and during the "discussion" between Ian Ayre of LFC and his Arsenal counterpart he informed them it wasn't a release clause as they'd been led to believe, Liverpool entered into a "discussion" with Suarez and his representatives to clarify the situation, he was given an improved contract and we moved on.
    We lost millions in transfer fees when Owen and McMannaman deliberately ran their contracts down to force their respective transfers to Real through, so its not surprising the club wised up and worded Suarez's contract in its favour.

    You seem bitter that we managed to keep him, Spurs losing Bale was great business for Spurs and you all wished him well etc because you were delighted the club got a fantastic fee for him, in contrast our club value Suarez as irreplaceable and any club wanting to purchase his services will have to pay a fee dictated by our owners, I'd say that's common sense as to let the buying club dictate the price would result in us getting getting ripped off yet again.
     
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  11. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    No buyout clause in the new one tobes, the club wanted totol control of their asset and Luis was happy to agree with his huge payrise guaranteed.
     
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  12. humanbeingincroydon

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    "(Suarez) had a buy-out clause - I don't know what degree I should go into this - but he had a buy-out clause of £40million - more than 60 million (US) dollars. So Arsenal, one of our prime rivals this year ... they offered £40million and one pound for him and triggered his buy-out clause." - John W Henry, quoted on the PFA website: http://www.thepfa.com/news/2014/3/2/henry-we-ignored-suarez-clause

    When your club owner says that Suarez had a buy-out clause that Arsenal's bid triggered, then that means that Suarez had a buy-out clause that was reneged on by your club.

    Oh dear indeed.

    Next time you think of trying to muddy the waters, spare yourself the hassle and click this link: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/artist/muddy-waters/id26643
     
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  13. Billy The Spur

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    Link? Proof? Show us in black and white.

    If there is no buy out clause, Goofy will stamp his feet until Liverpool let him leave for Spain, Liverpool have facked him over once already and he will not be stupid enough to let them do it again, also at his age he will not want to waste the best years of his career at Liverpool. If there is a buy out clause, you can bet Sewerez was not stupid enough to sign for one which prices him out of his dream move.
     
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  14. BREAKING NEWS

    Goofy bites an Italian!

    Does that twat never learn!

    Barca won't touch him, now. Expect a 20 match international ban, which ought to ensure that Goofy doesn't kick a ball in 'Pool's abortive CL campaign.
     
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  15. Billy The Spur

    Billy The Spur Well-Known Member

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    https://t.co/7AwHRVgHpQ

    Quite funny how Goofy bites him and then feigns injury himself, as if he had been shot in the face. I expect FIFA to bottle it, star player, plays for Liverpool, won`t be surprised if he gets away with it.

    I am sure in fine Scouse tradition, it will be somebody else`s fault.
     
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  16. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    It's a shame Chiellini's elbow didn't catch him in the mouth and make him as toothless as his display in that match.
     
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  17. remembercolinlee

    remembercolinlee Well-Known Member

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    don't you dis chadli!
     
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  18. NSIS

    NSIS Well-Known Member

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    I've seen it several times - no doubt in my mind that Suarez bit Chiellini. Un-****ing-believable! I suppose the only good news for the Mousers is that nobody will want him now...
     
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  19. totsfan

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    huffington post headline,Chewy Luis and the blues!
     
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  20. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

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    PSG and Monaco can tempt him, all they have to do is give him steak tartare twice a day to satisfy his cravings for raw meat.
     
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