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Most complete driver on the grid

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Big Ern, Aug 5, 2011.

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Who Is The Most Complete Driver On The Grid Today?

  1. Sebastian Vettel

  2. Mark Webber

  3. Fernando Alonso

  4. Jensen Button

  5. Lewis Hamilton

  6. Felipe Massa

  7. Nico Rosberg

  8. Michael Schumacher

  9. Vitaly Petrov

  10. Other (please specify)

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  1. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, didn't stop the **** from flying on 606 at the time ;)

    Give it time, this thread will go the same way soon!
     
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  2. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    and I thought it was too early for the alcohol-fuelled stories to emerge!! ;)
     
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  3. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    We can dream can't we, otherwise future successes would taste a bit duller without the blood sweat and tears.
     
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  4. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    You still have the dreams from the past as well though. Some can only dream about what could have been for their drivers :)
     
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  5. Forza Bianchi

    Forza Bianchi Well-Known Member

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    Madonna di Campiglio, 5 August –Late tonight, Fernando Alonso will arrive in Madonna di Campiglio where tomorrow he will take part in the second day of Wrooom Summer 2011, but his name already came up today as the media met with Stefano Domenicali. “For me, Fernando is the Number 1 driver in Formula 1 at the moment,” said the Scuderia Team Principal. “I see a lot of similarities with Michael Schumacher, a driver who made his mark on our history. In fact, in some areas Fernando is even better, for example when I think of the speed with which he integrated himself into the team and the way he became its leader. In this he was much quicker than Michael who took a while to do that.”

    Alongside Fernando, Felipe Massa is well used to facing a barrage of criticism, but for the umpteenth time, Domenicali stressed the total confidence that Ferrari has in its Brazilian driver. “I have seen that he was clearly on the up in the last three races and I am sure he will do very well in the second part of the year. Felipe has to stay calm and make the most of his talents, of which there are many: he is a very quick driver over a single lap, but maybe he needs to improve a bit in terms of his consistency in the races. It is definitely not easy being paired with someone like Fernando, but that should be a motivation for him not an excuse. For us, it is vital for Felipe to be on top of his game, given that for at least another year and a half, he is one of our drivers.”

    Still on the subject of drivers, Domenicali was asked for his opinion of Hamilton and how he would shape up alongside Fernando, given some recent comments from the Englishman. “I am pleased he said never say never on the subject of Ferrari, in fact it is logical that everyone aspires to come to Maranello sooner or later, given what we represent in the history of this sport. Having said that, I don’t think the question will arise, neither in the short nor in the long term. For the Ferrari of the future, I believe the right combination is to have one well established driver with great experience, alongside a talented youngster on the way up. I do not think that, with the pressure we are under, we can consider having two youngsters in the team at the same time.” Sergio Perez?


    http://www.ferrari.com/English/Form...ali_Alonso_is_the_Number1_Formula1_today.aspx
     
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  6. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    Give me a hug bud, that was poetry between the both of us ;)
     
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  7. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    It's a beautiful thing <wah>
     
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  8. SgtBhaji

    SgtBhaji Well-Known Member

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    I'm a bit lost on Domenicali's comments Re Schumacher. He went in to the Scuderia when they were in the wilderness and owned the team. He didn't have to settle in, he helped mould it.
     
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  9. Max Whiplash

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    I don't get the Button is better than Lewis at set-up argument. I hear Jenson complain a bit too often about not having grip or "It was fine on Friday but...". I don't want to slate Button because when he does get it right, he's mighty and definitely as good as Alonso and Hamilton, who I believe are the yardsticks. I find it hard to choose between those two. Vettel: still too many doubts about race craft, I'm afraid. Not yet for him, I think, but he has time on his side.
     
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  10. SgtBhaji

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    There are a lot of myths that really can't be backed up by any concrete evidence, like car development and setup. You would imagine that the setup process for Lewis and Jenson would be quite different anyway.

    You're spot in with Vettel... he is still young and still developing, as is Hamilton. Either or both could potentially become fantastic 'all round' racers, ones that could be ranked among the greats.
     
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  11. Max Whiplash

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    There's the tyre myth as well, people making claims for certain drivers or cars. It seems to me that from one race to the next, any of the top drivers can have a good or bad day with his tyres: climate, track surface, track type... These things seem to be more in control than any of the drivers. It's the youngest who seem to have adapted to managing tyres better whatever the conditions: Alguersuari and Perez standing out for me in this respect.
     
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  12. EternalMSC

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    Maybe because Italian<--->Spanish, no real difference between both cultures is there.
    German<---> Italian, quite hard to find similarities...
    Schumacher went into a crap team and made them into world champions, Alonso has not proved to topple that yet, and that is a fact.
     
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  13. u408379965

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    Max: A lot has been said this season of Vettel and Button's tyre management, and the statistics compared to their team mates back up a lot of what's been said. So far this season, Vettel has stopped 32 times compared to 38 for Webber, both of them completing every lap of every race. Button (in the eight races both McLarens have finished) has had 24 stops to Hamilton's 28.

    Most of the time the number of stops is out of the driver's control, but there are times (Hungary for example) where a driver can make a difference and provide the strategists with options and flexibility. James Allen had this to say of Button and Vettel earlier in the season:

     
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  14. TheModestMatt

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    Every driver has shown their strengths and weaknesses this year. The challenge for them is trying to iron out these weaknesses.
     
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  15. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    Summed up in a sentence, that was perfect pal.
     
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  16. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    Yes, perfect <applause>
     
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  17. cosicave

    cosicave Well-Known Member

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    [Off topic]

    More garbage eh,
    Cameron? Your apologies are meaningless aren't they?

    Do not make personal insults to other members of the forum, regardless of their opinions which may differ from your own. It is inflammatory; it is not the least bit constructive and it makes you look silly every time you do it.

    You have demonstrated some considerable ability to write some decent stuff, but you just keep on letting yourself down…


    Why?
    (If you want to answer, please PM me so as not to further disrupt the thread)
     
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  18. Prime Minister Cameron

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    Fully agree with that.
     
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  19. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    Oh dear me Cosi, leave it in the past, things had quietened down now.
     
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  20. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    Stop acting like the little goody two shoes, you have sent tripe like this to me, in attempt to make me quiet. Let him say what he wants, if people have a problem tell the mods, that's why they are there and you aren't, you are just the same as all of us ..
     
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