Off Topic Migrant crisis

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I broadly agree.
Educating working class children opens their eyes and minds to the exploitation their kind has suffered for generations. And the alternatives offered by radical thinkers.
Unfortunately the less perceptive are no longer content at the prospect of a lifetime of hard work in exchange for a rented roof over their heads and not much more. indeed that option is no longer available since the destruction of our mining & manufacturing industries.

Now the masses - unenlightened by any quality education yet well versed in what the Victorians called low cunning - follow the US counter-culture street mantra "get rich quick or die trying".
And they have no respect whatsoever for law, order, or responsibility to any community or society outside immediate family.
 
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We all know why this country has degraded at such a rapid rate. We have imported thousands upon thousands of undesirables. These people have no intention of blending into polite society. They do not abide by our laws and morals. They despise us and our way of life.

Before long there will be beheadings in the street, women and children will be enslaved, gays thrown from the tallest buildings.

And the liberals with their reedy voices will wring their hands and say, 'Oh, but we helped you come to our country. Why are you hurting us?'

And the invaders will say, 'You gave us your country and we didn't even have to fight for it. You are useful idiots.'

You'll most likely think me mad. I'm okay with that.
 
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Watameire said:
You are mad
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Like I say, I'm okay with that.

The grooming gangs scandal is the start of our end days. The vast majority of the rapists have got away with their crimes, which simply emboldens the malefactor. Any sane country would destroy such a heinous enterprise. But not us, no. Too many are too afraid to call it out, thus creating a slippery slope. Rape on an industrial scale is just the beginning.
 
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@Ponders Revisited Not mad at all. It’s where we are clearly heading. I can’t understand anyone who can’t see it.

And those who can’t, or refuse to, or are unable to see it will not be spared. You simply cannot import the huge numbers of people from totally different cultures that we have done and expect everything to work out fine. It won’t. The country already feels swamped and with traditional British people with birth rates below 1, but the imported scum breeding like rats, it is only going one way, unless something is done very soon.

The next general election is a chance to change things, but I don’t think the chance will be taken. It is probably too late already. Any attempt to bring in the actions that are needed would lead to widespread disorder from those who are benefitting from the current way. And we don’t have the resources anymore to enforce law and order if that happens.

I’ve said it lots of times already - the breakdown of law and order, as we know it in this country, is closer than many believe and the barrier currently preventing that from happening is wafer thin.

Again, I’ve said this before, but being in a place where law and order doesn’t exist, is more terrifying than anything else you can imagine and that’s with the weapons and means to have a reasonable chance of defending yourself.

Without those…….I dread to think.
 
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Take a walk around places such as Eastbourne or Bournemouth and see the decay caused by unfettered immigration. The pristine lawns, genteel promenades and immaculate beaches are now sullied by groups of foreign men smoking, drinking, loafing about and harassing women and girls.

Is that what anyone asked for? Is that what anyone truly wants? Only the deranged are happy with this sheer degradation.

Utter cowardice has led to this horror. Innocents are being raped and murdered by invaders, yet some are still blind to it, or they choose to ignore it lest it upsets their doctrine.
 
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Ponders Revisited said:
Take a walk around places such as Eastbourne or Bournemouth and see the decay caused by unfettered immigration. The pristine lawns, genteel promenades and immaculate beaches are now sullied by groups of foreign men smoking, drinking, loafing about and harassing women and girls.

Is that what anyone asked for? Is that what anyone truly wants? Only the deranged are happy with this sheer degradation.

Utter cowardice has led to this horror. Innocents are being raped and murdered by invaders, yet some are still blind to it, or they choose to ignore it lest it upsets their doctrine.
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All of these things are true.

And all (in one way or another) were expressed by people living here when the Romans came to Britain.
and the Saxons
and the Vikings
and the Normans
and the Huguenots
and Jews from Eastern Europe fleeing pogroms during Victorian times
and people from the Caribbean after WW2

All of these migrations changed this Country for ever.
All of them were resisted to varying degrees. And I daresay for each migration there were people who said it was the end of Britain.
They were right too. It was the end of the Britain they knew.
Our Islands were changed forever each time. Old ways were set aside for new ways.
There was violence, there were killings. There was push-back.
Then time passed, and the country evolved. True, it was never the same again. It became something different.

Our generation, our children's generation, and likely their children's generation too will not understand it, or (by-and-large) want it.
A hundred years from now that won't matter. This will all be part of history.
Like the Vikings and the Normans.
 
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lardiman said:
All of these things are true.

And all (in one way or another) were expressed by people living here when the Romans came to Britain.
and the Saxons
and the Vikings
and the Normans
and the Huguenots
and Jews from Eastern Europe fleeing pogroms during Victorian times
and people from the Caribbean after WW2

All of these migrations changed this Country for ever.
All of them were resisted to varying degrees. And I daresay for each migration there were people who said it was the end of Britain.
They were right too. It was the end of the Britain they knew.
Our Islands were changed forever each time. Old ways were set aside for new ways.
There was violence, there were killings. There was push-back.
Then time passed, and the country evolved. True, it was never the same again. It became something different.

Our generation, our children's generation, and likely their children's generation too will not understand it, or (by-and-large) want it.
A hundred years from now that won't matter. This will all be part of history.
Like the Vikings and the Normans.
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What we are seeing now is far different to anything that has gone on before. There will be no blending in or peaceful integration. There will be no religious tolerance. People of different faiths will not pray alongside one another. We shall see more rape, more murder, more chaos as the country degrades rapidly. Convert or get hurt.

These invaders offer nothing whatsoever, other than crime and degradation. They do not bring culture or esteemed tradition. We are not getting the Danes or Canadians or Kiwis. No, we are getting mostly low-IQ beings from the Third World. It is an invasion that our politicians are too cowardly to stop. A whole nation destroyed by cowardice. No one wants it, and certainly no one asked for it.

Betrayal.
 
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I have to disagree.

People of different faiths pray together all the time here. There is plenty of peaceful integration and blending.
Those things don't make for sensational headlines though. Only the rapes and murders do that.

It is not wrong for dreadful crimes to be reported.
But it is a form of cowardice for the good things that exist between different communities in this Country to be ignored.
As though they do not exist.
The cowardice of a handful of powerful men who are afraid of what brings common, everyday people of all colours and creeds together.
 
lardiman said:
I have to disagree.

People of different faiths pray together all the time here. There is plenty of peaceful integration and blending.
Those things don't make for sensational headlines though. Only the rapes and murders do that.

It is not wrong for dreadful crimes to be reported.
But it is a form of cowardice for the good things that exist between different communities in this Country to be ignored.
As though they do not exist.
The cowardice of a handful of powerful men who are afraid of what brings common, everyday people of all colours and creeds together.
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Like I said, we are not seeing peaceful integration or blending now. Society is fractured like never before. Heaping unknown, undocumented men onto communities is doing nothing for cohesion. Crime increases once boat migrants enter the area. And it's not just theft, it's sex crimes. Women and girls' lives are being destroyed, all because the politicians are too afraid to build camps.

Places such as Leicester and Bradford are prime examples of how integration has failed dismally. Most supporters travel in for the football, then leave straight after. Those places are enclaves nowadays.

Do you know of Muslims praying alongside Jews? If so, that's very good. It must be a rarity in these times.
 
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lardiman said:
All of these things are true.

And all (in one way or another) were expressed by people living here when the Romans came to Britain.
and the Saxons
and the Vikings
and the Normans
and the Huguenots
and Jews from Eastern Europe fleeing pogroms during Victorian times
and people from the Caribbean after WW2

All of these migrations changed this Country for ever.
All of them were resisted to varying degrees. And I daresay for each migration there were people who said it was the end of Britain.
They were right too. It was the end of the Britain they knew.
Our Islands were changed forever each time. Old ways were set aside for new ways.
There was violence, there were killings. There was push-back.
Then time passed, and the country evolved. True, it was never the same again. It became something different.

Our generation, our children's generation, and likely their children's generation too will not understand it, or (by-and-large) want it.
A hundred years from now that won't matter. This will all be part of history.
Like the Vikings and the Normans.
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Ubedizzytoo said:
@Ponders Revisited Not mad at all. It’s where we are clearly heading. I can’t understand anyone who can’t see it.

And those who can’t, or refuse to, or are unable to see it will not be spared.
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Or we could just do something about it before it happens. We aren’t being invaded by a superior army, we are inviting them here and encouraging them to destroy our way of life. Totally different to anything that has happened before or any of your examples to try to justify inaction.
 
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Justify inaction :emoticon-0138-think

Take any action you like. Many will.
When we were kids at the seaside I expect most of us tried to build sand castles that were big enough to survive the tide coming in.

This is already not the Britain of the 1970s. Or 1980s, or 1990s. Times we can all remember I expect. That past is destroyed.
There never was a golden age, so wanting to return to it or preserve it is a waste of energy in my view.
Understandable, but unachievable.

We are an Island of migrants.
Every wave of migration ever seen has been lamented by some as the end of civilisation here. And it has never turned out to be true.
Yes, values will change. communities pass away. Traditions will be lost or evolve beyond recognition.
When the Christians first came, or the land barons of the Industrial Revolution who emptied Rural Britain of a thousand little villages and turned those simple Country subsistence farmers into urban mill rats or black faced coal miners.
It was no different.
 
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We are getting the trash that sophisticated Islamic societies don't want. How long would any of these scum survive in the Emirates or Saudi?
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They aren't the lowest of the low in their native lands.
They have all found considerable sums of money to pay the people smugglers.
 
Ubedizzytoo said:
You are equating being very poor to being the lowest of the low. It really doesn’t work like that <doh>
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Yes. I meant lowest as in having the least. Being the poorest.
Not being the most despised.

I don't think it likely that these people, with some money to their names, are the most despised in their society.
They are the equivalent of lower middle class in many cases.

Are the lower middle class the most despised section of British society?
 
Ponders Revisited said:
The UAE and Saudis won't touch Afghans or Syrians with a barge pole. They remove them without delay. And for good reason.

What do we do? We house and feed them and lavish them with clothes and baubles to the tune of billions.

It is beyond madness.
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Not sure I'd be holding the Saudis, UAE or associates such as Qatar up as paragons of virtue.
Between them they have executed hundreds of political dissidents, allowed thousands of poor migrant workers to die on building sites, murdered a journalist in one of their embassies, acted as a headquarters for Hamas, etc.

And it was a wealthy Saudi Arabian who masterminded 9/11.
They are only admirable (to those who admire those kinds of things) in their capacity to suppress free speech and all forms of opposition, and splurge their vast wealth on sports-washing misadventures.

Round of LIV golf anyone?
Or a fake Sheikh investing less than a quid? <whistle>
 
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