Mboyo

The Luke McCormick case was sad, it apparently sent him into depression and he still wakes up screaming in distress. That's a hell of a burden to bear.

 

Not really. The manner in which somebody is murdered matters, of course, but leaving a 14-year-old girl with the memory of being raped by a gang of men? Rape is far worse, and I would have expected someone who claims to have a young daughter to agree.

16 is more than old enough to be aware of the difference between right and wrong. Would you be happy to have someone like Robert Thompson or Jon Venables on the team? They were only ten when they murdered James Bulger after all.

 

Using background as an excuse

Using environment as an excuse

Not even understanding the basic laws of this country

 

I actually made that point earlier in the thread; the link I put up a few pages ago listed young people who committed deliberate acts of horrific violence. The two that were ten and eleven at the time knew exactly what they were doing. The point I was making there was about young people not being able to take responsibility for their actions or not being to blame. Who was to blame in the Jamie Bulger case? Oh, the two kids still in primary school. Children aren't always absolved of blame.

 

It's all good saying "what if it was your daughter?" and seeing only one side of the story/


what if he was your son? would you gladly encourage the father of the victim to hunt down your son and kill him?


Just ****ing think for a second. You're making it sound like it's black or it's white no ****ing in between grey area but I'm sorry life is just one ****ing **** load of grey area... if it makes me a liberal tree hugging **** for acknowledging that then so be it.


why do you think there are different degrees of murder?? by your standards Luke Mcormick would deserve to die just as much as Bin Laden.

 

Not sure what you class an excuse. It's not about excuses. I'm not his defense lawyer, I'm not trying to say he didn't do it, just that his circumstances may have been a factor in why he ended up the way he did. I'm sure he didn't wake up that morning and go 'you know what, I think I'm going to rape somebody today'. If he was in a gang, then that will have put immense pressure on him, maybe even threatened him if he didn't join in, I don't know, I wasn't there.

As for not knowing the laws of the country; I'm aware that the age of consent is 16, but you're not legally an adult in the eyes of the judicial system until you are 18. Which means that by your own admission, Mboyo was still a child in our societies eyes.

 

The age of criminal responsibility is 10.

 

It is indeed, which puts to bed this nonsense that 'a child is more to blame than an adult'. A child could kill an adult and be responsible for it (unless the adult fell on the knife, which would be unfortunate to the childs case)

 

So if you know the laws of this country why did you state than an 18 year old male would go to prison if he had sex with a girl who was 17 years and 364 days old?

 

I might have missed out the point about it being a teacher and a student context. Well, that'll teach me not to proofread!

 

Quite so but then you have to get proof from them that they fully knew that what they were doing was wrong.
Like Tommy says we weren't there at the time so we do not know the full circumstances of the crime, 3 years served in Belgium seems like he was not fully involved as they are not as liberal as we are here.

 

All I can say to that is, 'WTF?!'

 

i didn't?

 

EH???

 

Murder is far worse than rape, and I'd expect any father of a young daughter to agree. When someone is murdered they are gone forever.

I'd quite happily have either of them in the team if they were quite handy with a football.

 

And when they're raped at fourteen, they're mentally ****ed and become little more than an empty shell.