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Wow.... I've been labelled an idiot.... It's like being at work.... And to be fair, with a post of such dubious quality, it makes it even more realistic.

I haven't delved too deeply into this as some others obviously have, just passing on observations from what I have seen over the years. I was under the impression that's what this forum was for, rather than general slagging off when someone doesn't agree.

As someone (beddy I think but could be wrong) the whole situation is very akin to two squabbling kids. I'm not 100% sure that even if they did kiss and make up, that FLT would be a good ambassador type for the club. He very much strikes me as the old school, whereas that couldn't be much different from what we have now.

I think at present, a public handshake would be good and would keep the divisive parts of the media at bay whilst we try and focus attention on the pitch and staying up.

For his part, I would suggest that FLT would be wise to get his son to reign it in a bit..... He has nothing to do with the club in any way, and must be a source of embarrassment to his dad. And on the other side, NC could sound a little less conceited when discussing it.

As for the accusation that people have got their tongues in certain parts of NC's anatomy.... The same could be said in reverse. Both men have saved this club in their way.... FLT through a divine combination of laziness and flair, and NC through vision and intelligence.

I also see no reason why NC hasn't got the minerals to make it as a chairmen... The opposite in fact. Although the sacking of AP and NA has left a bit of a bitter taste, the man is a hard nosed businessman..... It's nice to have a vision that we all could do better than any owner based on a few too many games of championship manager and banter with mates who always seem to know best. To quote a film, "this ain't a tickling competition!!" We are in the Premier League and are showing how it can be done. I personally like the idea that NC is a little left of field. When "mighty" Liverpool had the audacity to fax an offer to "lowly" Southampton for AoC and NC didn't even read it before he binned it... That shows that he's got the spuds to do it his way... That's fine by me!

Anyway..... Must get back to being an idiot....

Don't worry, your post was well reasoned, whether people agree with it or not, you needn't be concerned - particularly as the user who called you an idiot, Redstripe, seemed to be on a one man mission to raise Le Tiss' pedestal even higher.
 
Really hope Matt is brought back into the 'family'. Losing Adkins was a big blow to my feeling for the club and the team spirit I felt was there. Having our greatest ever player on the outside has always annoyed me. Legends like Le Tiss (even if he does say some stupid things) are part of our history and we should be proud of them.

Ditto.

Even if he doesn't quite see things the same way as Nicola, I have long been saying that they need to find a meeting of minds. Hopefully, the same invitation will eventually go to Lawrie. This club will really be better if it is together as one. Oops, did I reopen an old and beloved cliche with the last few words..? ;)
 
Matt le tiss knows as much about running a business as I know about 18th century French literature. He's perfectly entitled to give his views on the club and I'm perfectly entitled to wish he'd shut the fcuk up.
 
Oh and why cant a saints fan like MLT give his views ?

He has a season ticket and can say what he likes, just like everyone else.

No he can't for the very reason he is not like everyone else.

Matthew has come out very badly in this whole affair and has lost the repect of many Saints fans.

He has a lot of work to do to rebuild my faith in his ability to talk objectively about our club.
 
Hopefully they can clear the air and put past ghosts to rest. Both Cortese and Le Tissier have a passion for Southampton, so if they can start singing from the same song sheet it can only be good for the club.
 
Wow.... I've been labelled an idiot.... It's like being at work.... And to be fair, with a post of such dubious quality, it makes it even more realistic.

I haven't delved too deeply into this as some others obviously have, just passing on observations from what I have seen over the years. I was under the impression that's what this forum was for, rather than general slagging off when someone doesn't agree.

As someone (beddy I think but could be wrong) the whole situation is very akin to two squabbling kids. I'm not 100% sure that even if they did kiss and make up, that FLT would be a good ambassador type for the club. He very much strikes me as the old school, whereas that couldn't be much different from what we have now.

I think at present, a public handshake would be good and would keep the divisive parts of the media at bay whilst we try and focus attention on the pitch and staying up.

For his part, I would suggest that FLT would be wise to get his son to reign it in a bit..... He has nothing to do with the club in any way, and must be a source of embarrassment to his dad. And on the other side, NC could sound a little less conceited when discussing it.

As for the accusation that people have got their tongues in certain parts of NC's anatomy.... The same could be said in reverse. Both men have saved this club in their way.... FLT through a divine combination of laziness and flair, and NC through vision and intelligence.

I also see no reason why NC hasn't got the minerals to make it as a chairmen... The opposite in fact. Although the sacking of AP and NA has left a bit of a bitter taste, the man is a hard nosed businessman..... It's nice to have a vision that we all could do better than any owner based on a few too many games of championship manager and banter with mates who always seem to know best. To quote a film, "this ain't a tickling competition!!" We are in the Premier League and are showing how it can be done. I personally like the idea that NC is a little left of field. When "mighty" Liverpool had the audacity to fax an offer to "lowly" Southampton for AoC and NC didn't even read it before he binned it... That shows that he's got the spuds to do it his way... That's fine by me!

Anyway..... Must get back to being an idiot....

Thanks for not biting and turning this into a shouting match. There is nothing wrong with your points you have made, all are good and valid and well presented......
 
A few years ago Man Utd did a kind of fans survey to establish the greatest ever United player. Anyone of a certain age (i.e.old) could answer this almost without thinking - George Best. Simple as he is probably the greatest player ever produced in the UK, and some of us fortunate enough to see him would be tempted to argue he is the greatest of all time. When the survey was published Erica Cantona came out number one.

Somehow, the same generation of Saints fans have decided that Matt Le Tissier is the greatest player in our history and whatever he wants he should have. Presumably these are fans who didn't see a young Mick Channon rip defences apart; they haven't delighted in seeing Terry Paine twist defenders inside out before placing the ball perfectly on the head of the number 9; they haven't stood behind the goal as another Ron Davies header almost burst the net. All three of these served the club brilliantly and were responsible for promotion and/or keeping us up when things looked against us. Le Tissier was a delightful player, and has shown himself to be a boor post playing. Getting him to shut up on Sky would be good, but frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn.

Cortese is a clever business man who clearly doesn't play the media's game. They hate him. Fine, he's not courting popularity he's running a business and running it well. He probably isn't someone I'd want to share a decent bottle of red with, but so what? His actions have enabled me to continue to support my club, and see them rise from obscurity to being a Premier League club again. His vision is that we should be bigger and better. What's there to disagree with?
 
Cortese is a clever business man who clearly doesn't play the media's game. They hate him. Fine, he's not courting popularity he's running a business and running it well. He probably isn't someone I'd want to share a decent bottle of red with, but so what? His actions have enabled me to continue to support my club, and see them rise from obscurity to being a Premier League club again. His vision is that we should be bigger and better. What's there to disagree with?


Well said Channon!
 
I just hope that they can agree to be civil to each other in public. What Tiss has to realise is that he is the loser here...it doesn't matter to Cortese more than having an annoying gnat buzzing round your ear. Matt believes that Cortese cares nothing about the past (i.e. about Matt and other ex-players), whereas I think Nicola just cares more about Saints future. Isn't Matt glad that our beloved team is back in the PL...we all know he loves the club with his constant references to 'us' on TV, but he has to realise that someone else owns it now. He should remember the adage: Don't think what can Saints do for me, what can I do for Saints.
 
I just hope that they can agree to be civil to each other in public. What Tiss has to realise is that he is the loser here...it doesn't matter to Cortese more than having an annoying gnat buzzing round your ear. Matt believes that Cortese cares nothing about the past (i.e. about Matt and other ex-players), whereas I think Nicola just cares more about Saints future. Isn't Matt glad that our beloved team is back in the PL...we all know he loves the club with his constant references to 'us' on TV, but he has to realise that someone else owns it now. He should remember the adage: Don't think what can Saints do for me, what can I do for Saints.

Yeah, it's a golden opportunity for Matt to bury the hatchet without losing face, so I hope he takes it. Hopefully anything that has to be said can be settled in private, that means the rest of the planet doesn't need to read about it on twitter.
 
NC has a bit of a track record at clearing the air, just look at Jason Puncheon. Just over a year ago everyone thought he was on his way out, then a session with Nicola resolved all the issues and he's been one of the stars of the show ever since, and that was after Punch had posted a few derogatory things on Twitter.

Hopefully this meeting will follow similar lines and at least let NC and MLT come to an agreement about what the issues are and how they can put them behind them.