Koeman poll

[st_brendy]

I was "undecided" and, while massively reassured, I wouldn't go back and change my vote. We have been so poor this season - even when getting results - that it will take a little more consistency before I am firmly back in the Koeman is a God camp. We have been excellent for two games, but horrible to watch for much of the rest of the year...

I am inclined to think that Koeman has worked out that our system had been, erm, worked out, and that the change to 352 is his first truly impressive bit of tactical management. Before that he was following a prescribed path. Even his substitutions look better this week.

We don't make a party when we win and all that...

I completely agree about the substitutions. But that too was probably more of a direct result of the tactical switch. When playing the usual 4-3-3 type formation, we don't have the option of bringing Tadic off the bench to grab a goal, for example, because invariably he's already on the pitch. Oh how nice it is to have options on the bench other than Juanmi!

 

[Archers Road]

There wasn't 45 people moaning etc in every thread.

It just seemed that way

 

[Beef]

It just seemed that way

TinTin doesn't count as 44.

 

[fatletiss]

Chap on Sky said Ronald Koeman has to be the best footballer amongst all the EPL managers Doesn't make you the best manager of course, but I liked it.

Probably about right. I bet Mark Hughes would vote for himself if they ever had a vote

 

[ImpSaint]

Pardew would.

 

[fatletiss]

Pardew would.

Jeez, I forgot him. That's a definite.

 

[TheSecondStain]

Chap on Sky said Ronald Koeman has to be the best footballer amongst all the EPL managers Doesn't make you the best manager of course, but I liked it.

It was on the commentary during the match. I thought about that and could only come up with a couple. Mark Hughes was a very good international standard footballer, though not world class. Pochettino [though I almost choke to think it] would probably be the other player. They would be on a par with Erwin, if that's not to insult Ron's older brother, who was a fine Dutch International.

Probably about right. I bet Mark Hughes would vote for himself if they ever had a vote

Mark Hughes has never struck me as a bloke who fancies himself over much. I think he'd recognise one of the world best ever defenders is the best ex-player currently managing in the PL.

 

[Archers Road]

Between Ron and Hughesie definitely. In the event of a tie breaker, Ron wins for outstanding performance against ze Germans.

 

[fatletiss]

Mark Hughes has never struck me as a bloke who fancies himself over much. I think he'd recognise one of the world best ever defenders is the best ex-player currently managing in the PL.

He didn't manage to recognize the importance of the most talented player this country had when he played in the same team as him

 

[Le Tissier's Laces]

Between Ron and Hughesie definitely. In the event of a tie breaker, Ron wins for outstanding performance against ze Germans.

I don't think it's even close. Ron was a far better player than Hughes.

 

[Archers Road]

I don't think it's even close. Ron was a far better player than Hughes.

Well as they played against each other at least once, in the 1991 Uefa cup winners cup final, perhaps we could ask Ron. I expect he'd tell you what a talent Hughes was.

 

[Le Tissier's Laces]

Well as they played against each other at least once, in the 1991 Uefa cup winners cup final, perhaps we could ask Ron. I expect he'd tell you what a talent Hughes was.

Certainly not denying that Hughes was an exceptional player. Ron was a class above though.

 

[Puck]

Not that it's the be-all and end-all but Hughes was (mainly) a striker and I think Koeman may have scored more goals in his career.

 

[TheSecondStain]

He didn't manage to recognize the importance of the most talented player this country had when he played in the same team as him

Yes, well he wasn't alone in not recognising that.

 

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Not that it's the be-all and end-all but Hughes was (mainly) a striker and I think Koeman may have scored more goals in his career.

This is correct. Koeman scored 193 goals at club level and 14 for his country.
Hughes scored 164 for club and 16 for country.

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[TheSecondStain]

Not that it's the be-all and end-all but Hughes was (mainly) a striker and I think Koeman may have scored more goals in his career.

Highest scoring defender ever. It's a remarkable record. My jaw dropped when I read it.

 

[Archers Road]

This is correct. Koeman scored 193 goals at club level and 14 for his country.
Hughes scored 164 for club and 16 for country.

[HASHTAG]#says[/HASHTAG] Wikipedia :S

That is quite astounding.

Mind you, as Hughes' country was Wales, his international record is quite impressive.

 

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That is quite astounding.

Mind you, as Hughes' country was Wales, his international record is quite impressive.

Another fact to think about is that Hughes flopped at Barcelona. I don't think anyone would say that about Koeman...

 

[Archers Road]

Another fact to think about is that Hughes flopped at Barcelona. I don't think anyone would say that about Koeman...

True. But wasn't Hughes trying to displace Gary Lineker?

 

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True. But wasn't Hughes trying to displace Gary Lineker?

I believe he went to partner him in attack?