It’s called humour John, obviously went over your head, never mind…
You are always telling us how well you’re investments are doing, should the rest of us hard working, tax paying citizens pay £300 towards your heating, when there are much more deserving cases?
Not belittling you John, it’s a legitimate question. The £300 winter fuel payment is supposed to be for pensioners that can’t afford to keep warm over winter. It was never meant for ALL pensioners, the reason it’s a universal payment is it would be too difficult and costly to identify which people are due it. So in these difficult times should we continue a scheme that pays people that don’t need it, or would that money be better spent elsewhere.so you dont have an answer then ..brush it off as a joke! so we cant really take anything you say regarding labour costings and plans etc ... well lack of them! fair do's
just noticed that of a previous quote!
My working life spanned over 64 years... in the course of it [ as is true of a few on here ] we never had all the soft touch's freebie hand outs and had to pay up to 17% for mortgages ... pay tax at higher rates had less sickness benefits and to boot shorter holidays! in a lot of cases just 15 or so working days paid leave plus a few days for Christmas! So do not try and belittle anyone on here who has managed to rise above minimum income level by their own endeavours or self sacrifices! .......
Actually I tried to defuse things , you obviously just aren’t bright enough to recognise it'he doesn't have a clue'
It's why the puerile attempt at humour.
I wasn’t talking to Clifton I was talking to JohnYou didn't do anything other than avoid Cliftons question.
You are always telling us how well you’re investments are doing, should the rest of us hard working, tax paying citizens pay £300 towards your heating, when there are much more deserving cases?
the heating allowance was a one off payment to people over 60 or 65 [ state pension ] it was meant for all people on state pension!Not belittling you John, it’s a legitimate question. The £300 winter fuel payment is supposed to be for pensioners that can’t afford to keep warm over winter. It was never meant for ALL pensioners, the reason it’s a universal payment is it would be too difficult and costly to identify which people are due it. So in these difficult times should we continue a scheme that pays people that don’t need it, or would that money be better spent elsewhere.
I’m comfortable that The universal element should be dropped, but i am concerned that a better way needs to be found to ensure all the worse off pensioners that need it don’t miss out.the heating allowance was a one off payment to people over 60 or 65 [ state pension ] it was meant for all people on state pension!
The last .gov had no inclination to change it, it was "part of the " PENSION which had not been raised anywhere in line with inflation for years. it was published somewhere pre covid era in a comparison article that wages had risen over a period of years and pensions has failed to keep up by a long chalk and used the then lower payment annual figure as a make weight to reduce something like a 30% to 2? % [ thats somewhere in the twenties]
this year pensioners will be told they are getting 8% rise but after the tax and loss of £300 it is about 1.5%?
do I need it... well I am entitled ... entitlement means qualify or not you get it [ not referring to heating allowance just any handout ]
an illegal boat person steps of the boat and it costs the tax payer almost £700 a week whilst they are here... "entitled to bed and food and allowance for personal" yet many have state of the art phones phone home wear designer clothe's that is never declared?!!!
I managed to get 2 years of fixed gas and electric ended AUGUST 23RD 2023 WHAT A COINCIDENCE ON DATES i WRITING THIS NOW!With the increase in the fuel cap coming down the line, I am concerned the MOST VULNERABLE pensioners should be protected.
You did not answer the earlier questions. What are the costs of Labour granting amnesty to nearly 100,000 illegal migrants? How does this deter further illegal immigrants crossing the channel from the safety of France?
Hope you’re ok John. There are some nasty people about.its 3 am and after chasing off a thief who broke into my van sleep is a bit difficult..
have been glancing at the Sunday paper headlines and it seems we are all in for a shock according to Kamikaze things are going to get a lot worse he rants due to the situation the previous .gov left us in. Now THAT is confusing because apparently according to the BOE/ FISCAL/ and the OBR figures...VIZ
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A VERY encouraging outlook from all 3 bodies [ financial/fiscal ] and of course there are some others that forcast [ positive overtones ] a rosy future lying ahead!
WHILST THE ABOVE has still a couple months left to run for parity it is very encouraging what Labour inherited at July4th and now! Makes it even more of a "wonder what is going on" when we get pensioners being robbed of around £450 per year... andserious worries from the probation board on the releasing of hundreds of prisoners in September that will need to be supported by the state so that a few hundred protesters can be jailed. Which actually uncovers info from one of the chief top law persons to instruct magistrates and sentencing judges, that the sentencing of protestors should be delayed because no room for them.!
EX .GOV ministers have stated certain facts about the needless usurping of financial benefits to Pensioners and needy others as the £20bn was "covered by the recovery of GDP/ lower inflation / and the accompanying reductions of interest rates over the next 18 months.
THE MORE you look into it the need to take premeditated action like the penny pinching from the poor and pensioners is save them face because all their pledges are turning out to be as was stated by various avenues media/ .gov/ other parties to be unfunded. One would expect that if you could gather up all the "pots of where the money was coming from" to do the things a vast majority of fiscal pundits said were unworkable or not costed or wouldnt becost effective it comes to over the mysterious £20bn MINI black hole found just days after 4th July was found.
No wonder Kamikazies popularity has bombed ... didnt even get past 2 weeks of the so called 100 days honeymoon, and already there is some dissent regarding the rip off of pensioners a handful saying we need a vote on it and I wont say yes!
its 3 am and after chasing off a thief who broke into my van sleep is a bit difficult..
have been glancing at the Sunday paper headlines and it seems we are all in for a shock according to Kamikaze things are going to get a lot worse he rants due to the situation the previous .gov left us in. Now THAT is confusing because apparently according to the BOE/ FISCAL/ and the OBR figures...VIZ
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A VERY encouraging outlook from all 3 bodies [ financial/fiscal ] and of course there are some others that forcast [ positive overtones ] a rosy future lying ahead!
WHILST THE ABOVE has still a couple months left to run for parity it is very encouraging what Labour inherited at July4th and now! Makes it even more of a "wonder what is going on" when we get pensioners being robbed of around £450 per year... andserious worries from the probation board on the releasing of hundreds of prisoners in September that will need to be supported by the state so that a few hundred protesters can be jailed. Which actually uncovers info from one of the chief top law persons to instruct magistrates and sentencing judges, that the sentencing of protestors should be delayed because no room for them.!
EX .GOV ministers have stated certain facts about the needless usurping of financial benefits to Pensioners and needy others as the £20bn was "covered by the recovery of GDP/ lower inflation / and the accompanying reductions of interest rates over the next 18 months.
THE MORE you look into it the need to take premeditated action like the penny pinching from the poor and pensioners is save them face because all their pledges are turning out to be as was stated by various avenues media/ .gov/ other parties to be unfunded. One would expect that if you could gather up all the "pots of where the money was coming from" to do the things a vast majority of fiscal pundits said were unworkable or not costed or wouldnt becost effective it comes to over the mysterious £20bn MINI black hole found just days after 4th July was found.
No wonder Kamikazies popularity has bombed ... didnt even get past 2 weeks of the so called 100 days honeymoon, and already there is some dissent regarding the rip off of pensioners a handful saying we need a vote on it and I wont say yes!