Transfer Rumours January Transfer Thread

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TurkeyTeeth™ said:
Let’s not sign any players. Keep the cash in the bank earning interest. Plan for mid table for the next five years and consolidate our position.
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You misunderstood. We have fe players who are bottom half premiership or top 6 championship. We have shipped in many soft goals from teams we should have played off the park. I would prefer this season to get a team ready for automatic promotion rather than the lottery of the play off
 
Shark Sports said:
I get the Vinagre one over robustness but LB wasn't our highest priority, that was making us score more goals which we're doing now. Allsop has been fine, we've missed him massively in the last few games. Yes, he's made a few errors but he's made some massive saves too and his distribution has led to a fair few goals as well.
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Allsop has let in several soft goals also including getting lobbed
 
Going to write something controversial on here if you look at the players who made premiership and championship regular appearances then stating 20 plus year olds need to go out from our squad to non league and league 2 shows they are cannon fodder and unlikely to make our squad
 
UMC said:
Going to write something controversial on here if you look at the players who made premiership and championship regular appearances then stating 20 plus year olds need to go out from our squad to non league and league 2 shows they are cannon fodder and unlikely to make our squad
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If they're good enough they'll make it, if they aren't they won't. The ones that do will more than offset the cost of developing the others if our recent record of developing talent is anything to go by - and that has involved loaning youngsters out.
 
Mckechnie Orange said:
If they're good enough they'll make it, if they aren't they won't. The ones that do will more than offset the cost of developing the others if our recent record of developing talent is anything to go by - and that has involved loaning youngsters out.
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If they're good enough they'll make it is such an stupid and over used phrase. There's 100s of players that never make it who are better then some of those that do, there is some many other factors and reasons behind it all
 
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Howdentiger2 said:
If they're good enough they'll make it is such an stupid and over used phrase. There's 100s of players that never make it who are better then some of those that do, there is some many other factors and reasons behind it all
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Yeah, fair enough. Was a bit of a generalisation, but surely at some point a player needs to go out and play and if the parent club has stronger options in the first team, surely a loan is a useful thing?

Doesn't automatically mean they're being written off and won't come back better surely?
 
Mckechnie Orange said:
Yeah, fair enough. Was a bit of a generalisation, but surely at some point a player needs to go out and play and if the parent club has stronger options in the first team, surely a loan is a useful thing?

Doesn't automatically mean they're being written off surely?
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All youngsters should aim to be playing as competitively as possible, I still think getting rid of the reserves league (obviously wasn't called that but you know what I mean) was a bad move
 
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Is there a problem when it comes to player development and indeed the Academy I wonder... we dont loan players from teams in League 1 and 2. We loan to League 1 and 2. We loan from the Premiership and these players come in with perhaps an acknowledgment to parent club that they will play. That reduces the opportunity for home grown talent. Tell me of player of ours has gone to a League 1 or 2 or any other league for that matter that has come back a better player and made the grade as a starter at Hull City. (Perhaps JG is the exception) I truly cant think of one in recent times... probably beating myself with a stick.
 
TIGERSCAVE said:
Is there a problem when it comes to player development and indeed the Academy I wonder... we dont loan players from teams in League 1 and 2. We loan to League 1 and 2. We loan from the Premiership and these players come in with perhaps an acknowledgment to parent club that they will play. That reduces the opportunity for home grown talent. Tell me of player of ours has gone to a League 1 or 2 or any other league for that matter that has come back a better player and made the grade as a starter at Hull City. (Perhaps JG is the exception) I truly cant think of one in recent times... probably beating myself with a stick.
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Depends who you rate, but Fleming went out, Sean Macca signed from Ireland and immediately spent half a season on loan in Scotland. KLP went out, Harry maguire went out, Matty Jacob who'll surely be in the squad on Saturday went out...

It's about first team experience, less so much loans per se.

We signed Bowen from Hereford where he'd been in a senior first team environment (though not a loan) and I think that's what's important.

If I were a young player then I'm pretty sure I'd want to make a competitive mark at any professional level as quickly as I could. I don't understand really why I the loan system is sneered upon as a means of facilitating that.
 
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If our players aren't improving out on loan but rather improving in our set up, is that a criticism of our Academy and player development or the clubs the players get sent to?
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
If our players aren't improving out on loan but rather improving in our set up, is that a criticism of our Academy and player development or the clubs the players get sent to?
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Or the players themselves who don't take or sometimes even want the opportunity?

When a youngster have a pretty decent wage in average joe terms, from within the protection of an u21s setup, then suddenly have to mix it in a league or two below at an unglamorous club getting kicked and having to scrap for his place week in week out then it's an aspect of men's professional football - actually justifying a wage that some young players never get past.

Wages paid at top level academies really don't help that.
 
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