Off Topic International Break Thread

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KingHotspur said:
Even worse than Hodgson and McClaren?
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Hodgson is a highly experienced manager way beyond Southgate, his time with England was disappointing for sure. MACLAREN was awful and also connected with Middlesbrough. I wonder if he had something to do with the selection of Southgate. Southgate is worse because he has been there much longer and appears to have learnt very little

I think you need an attacking minded manager for the England job (Hodgson is not that) internationals are generally one off games not a 38 game league ,which might require a defensive manager. Redknapp and Howe are the right sort IMO
 
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Spurf said:
Hodgson is a highly experienced manager way beyond Southgate, his time with England was disappointing for sure. MACLAREN was awful and also connected with Middlesbrough. I wonder if he had something to do with the selection of Southgate. Southgate is worse because he has been there much longer and appears to have learnt very little

I think you need an attacking minded manager for the England job (Hodgson is not that) internationals are generally one off games not a 38 game league ,which might require a defensive manager. Redknapp and Howe are the right sort IMO
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But Southgate’s results far exceed both Hodgson and McClaren and I don’t remember the England team playing good football under those two too.

Next manager will hopefully be someone who plays attacking football but most of those managers are in club football.
 
KingHotspur said:
But Southgate’s results far exceed both Hodgson and McClaren and I don’t remember the England team playing good football under those two too.

Next manager will hopefully be someone who plays attacking football but most of those managers are in club football.
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The results disguise the reality IMO
As I said Hodgson and Maclaren weren't there as long. Keegan was poor too as he himself admitted
But I prefer to compare Southgate to the best not the worst. If you look at the results he looks good but I watched the performances which were poor.
 
Spurf said:
The results disguise the reality IMO
As I said Hodgson and Maclaren weren't there as long. Keegan was poor too as he himself admitted
But I prefer to compare Southgate to the best not the worst. If you look at the results he looks good but I watched the performances which were poor.
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They were equally poor under Capello, Taylor, Greenwood, at times under Robson and Sven, in fact only Hoddle and Venables both of whom left the FA quite quickly did we regularly play well.

And in fact I am being too kind to El Tel, he only had friendlies and Euro 96 where as I said in my earlier post we were flattered by 2 really good games
 
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then you see it quotes Richard Keys!!!
 
I think that Southgate has been pretty fortunate with draws, too. Some very easy passages through tournaments.
Other England managers had it easy too, to be fair. Crapello drawing with Algeria springs to mind.
 
humanbeingincroydon said:
Midfielders who pass it sideways?
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Yes, but specifically attacking midfielders who pass it sideways, in this case.

He can miss the game on the weekend and Southgate would still have a massive range of options.
One would be to start Mainoo or Wharton alongside Rice and play Palmer in Foden's place.
Alternatively he could pick Gordon on the left, play Palmer in the middle, drop Bellingham deep, rest Saka and play Bowen.
Kane and Watkins together and abandoning the attacking midfield role altogether could work, too.
I haven't even mentioned Eze.

He'll probably pick Alexander-Arnold on the left wing and have Luke Shaw play on crutches, though.
 
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The Changing Man said:
They were equally poor under Capello, Taylor, Greenwood, at times under Robson and Sven, in fact only Hoddle and Venables both of whom left the FA quite quickly did we regularly play well.

And in fact I am being too kind to El Tel, he only had friendlies and Euro 96 where as I said in my earlier post we were flattered by 2 really good games
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I will not agree to any diminishing of Venables the best coach I ever saw IMO. His first game with England was against European champs Denmark.
The first half we were almost overrun. VENABLES change things and tactics at half time and we won. Fantastic in game changes by a master tactician.
 
Spurf said:
I will not agree to any diminishing of Venables the best coach I ever saw IMO. His first game with England was against European champs Denmark.
The first half we were almost overrun. VENABLES change things and tactics at half time and we won. Fantastic in game changes by a master tactician.
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To be fair in the Scotland game at Euro 96 we were terrible first half and Tel changed the game by moving to a back 3 and sitting Jamie Redknapp in front of them and it changed the game and we had more control and went on to win thanks to Gazzas fabulous goal - I was at Wembley that day and will always treasure that moment, and I have great admiration for Tel too.
 
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