Off Topic ****ing Europe
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It seems lost on people how negotiations take place. They set their stall out and we set ours. Eventually there are compromises and you get a deal. It’s not the EUs fault that our Brexit brigade are weak as piss and bend over backwards. It was always going to be the case!
We should NOT have a second vote about the deal that we get. The public can not be trusted (in my opinion we should never have had a referendum on it in the first place). Brexit will happen. Chances are, when my generation are fully “in charge” it’ll all be reversed if it goes tits up anyway and Brexit proves unsustainable.
We should NOT have a second vote about the deal that we get. The public can not be trusted (in my opinion we should never have had a referendum on it in the first place). Brexit will happen. Chances are, when my generation are fully “in charge” it’ll all be reversed if it goes tits up anyway and Brexit proves unsustainable.
You have to be just a little bit *special* to think Brexit is a good idea after all the loudmouth liars instantly retracted all their misleading bullshit as soon as the result was announced... But you have to be a lot special to think it's a good idea when it's announced we have to pay a huge final bill, the Tory party (which the same morons no doubt voted for as well) have ****ed everything up and resorted to claiming keeping the "status quo" for another few years is a triumph, when every economic indication suggests that the North East will be shagged after Brexit, the pound fell off the ****ing cliff and Boris Johnson had to **** over a woman in Iran so that people would forget how he ****ed the country. The funniest thing, is no matter how much people point facts out to you, you'll never accept them.
People voting for Brexit had no idea what they were voting for, and you still don't. The EU ****s dictating laws you don't care about is no different to UK ****s dictating laws you don't care about. The sole reason for the vote was that they wanted to stick it to the politicians, which is fair enough.
There will be a second referendum, and I hope it ends exactly the same way. When you're in a life-raft in the middle of the sea, with a mad-man who insists on stabbing holes in the bottom, sometimes it's better to let him drown you all rather than continually bail the water out... it'd be socially irresponsible to let him make land.
People voting for Brexit had no idea what they were voting for, and you still don't. The EU ****s dictating laws you don't care about is no different to UK ****s dictating laws you don't care about. The sole reason for the vote was that they wanted to stick it to the politicians, which is fair enough.
There will be a second referendum, and I hope it ends exactly the same way. When you're in a life-raft in the middle of the sea, with a mad-man who insists on stabbing holes in the bottom, sometimes it's better to let him drown you all rather than continually bail the water out... it'd be socially irresponsible to let him make land.
That's bollocks though, referendums aren't legally binding. The government choosing to listen to referendum results is not the same as the referendum result forcing the decision. A referendum can't force any changes, they can't put this on the public. It a Tory decision with a Tory plan of action and a Tory **** up.
It's always you getting het up and abusive on this subject sir. Proof is the threads. You turn into a different person
I honestly believe the vast majority of Labour MP's didnt want it either. Regardless of who was/is in power they are there to comply with the electorates wishes. Basically the c*nts havent. Every f*cking MP in this country is a joke. All in it for what they can get out.
We need to leave but now was never the time, it requires a decade of planning, spending and infrastructure of which we've had none. Don't know who the bigger morons are. The Tories pushing this as fast as possible or the 'Out' chest puffers where it still hasn't clicked in their heads that it would be a disaster to do it now. But we're pushing head and destroying our country instead of stepping back like intelligent people and saying right we need to do these things before we leave then we get the **** out sharpish.
It's a **** up of epic magnitudes.
So how come voting out isn't legally binding but voting in is?
Christ, it's even more corrupt than I thought.
The old Soviet Union & East Germany weren't this sick.
Eh? It isn't. Regardless of the vote outcome, a referendum isn't legally binding to force legislation, it never has been ever, it's a glorified poll. If a Government chooses to go with the majority, it's not the result of the referendum which is changing the legislation it's the governments own independent decision. They're heads of the state marra. Get every person in the country to vote, it still doesn't overrule the heads of state. They have final say.
It was daft Dave's way of appealing to the people, let them have their say thinking there's no way they'd vote out. He subsequently lost his job
Basically the country marginally disagreed with Cameron, so he spat his dummy, declared we're to leave Europe then resigned. May stepped in and kept Cameron's decision in place. All the referendum is is a tool to help the government gauge the public opinion. there was only 4% in the vote, what Cameron did was dam right petty and childish. What the referendum showed is that leaving the EU needed to be looked into with serious attention, delve deeper byond the question to find out what kind of Britain we wanted including how and when to leave, not throwing strop on such marginal numbers then sticking his finger up to the country. The pig ****ing ****.
Then May triggered Article 50 like a ****ing loon, and as a result we're going to face the consequences of leaving Europe in the worst way. On the ****ing EUs terms.