I'm backing the Allams

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I'm not anti-Allam, he saved our club and I have no desire to see him leave, but I think he's treated Nick really badly and I think once the truth comes out, I suspect you will too.

Maybe you wait to hear both sides before deciding who is in the wrong.

And for the record, it's 'toe the line'.

toe the line? Really? You'll be telling me next Ku De Ta is wrong. Unbeleavable.
 
Stop digging Chazz, you have no idea what's gone on, but the bloke you're attempting to discredit knows exactly what's gone on.

Bearing that in mind, I suggest you spend no further time making a **** of yourself.

Just a suggestion. <ok>

A question, do you think it is simply possible, likely, probable, definite, unlikely or whatever that the truth will come out? I guess the truth is something that Papa Doc would prefer not to come out.
 
whatever the true story of events it seems the Allams don't like Barmby and want him out.. are they jealous of his black & amber connections and local support?

why give a manager a full-time post and then NOT back him financially? cos they wanted him to fail??

Did they not want PL yet??

one wonders...
 
I'm not anti-Allam, he saved our club and I have no desire to see him leave, but I think he's treated Nick really badly and I think once the truth comes out, I suspect you will too.

Maybe you wait to hear both sides before deciding who is in the wrong.

And for the record, it's 'toe the line'.

How has he treated Nick badly? You yourself said on here they awarded Barmby a better salary than NP was on for one thing.

They have let him bring in Steve Wigley, an England coach, that wont have come cheaply.

They arent making them share a peg are they???
 
How has he treated Nick badly? You yourself said on here they awarded Barmby a better salary than NP was on for one thing.

They have let him bring in Steve Wigley, an England coach, that wont have come cheaply.

They arent making them share a peg are they???

What's salary got to do with anything?
They got him to lie about not wanting to spend money when they'd lied about money being available.
 
What's salary got to do with anything?
They got him to lie about not wanting to spend money when they'd lied about money being available.

This.

Also it will still have been a pay cut for him, even if that was relevant.
 
Definitely O/T now but the lines are two swords lengths apart so they couldn't kill each other in the old days (more's the pity)

urban myth! the Commons Chamber was rebuilt in the 1950s and members (typically) don't carry swords. pictures and paintings of the Chamber prior to the 2nd World War do not show the lines.

it's more likely to be connected to a ship's crew lining up along a given plank or board on deck when on parade.
 
A question, do you think it is simply possible, likely, probable, definite, unlikely or whatever that the truth will come out? I guess the truth is something that Papa Doc would prefer not to come out.

I think that depends entirely on how things are resolved.

It's now my opinion(and purely my opinion) that the Allam's probably regret suspending Nick and if both parties can find a way out of this mess then he'll be re-instated. That being the case, I don't think anything will be officially confirmed one way or another, at least until Barmby writes a book some years down the line(should he choose to do so).

If things are not resolved, if the Allam's decide they don't want Nick back, or if Nick decides he can no longer work for them, then I think things will be revealed fairly soon and I'm sure things will come out that Papa Doc would rather didn't come out.

Firstly, the Allam's need to tell Nick they want him back, Nick then has to decide if he wants to come back. He remains completely gutted by recent events and I suspect his desire to manage Hull City would overrule his disappointment with what's gone on over the past week, but that's just my opinion.

Things with AP seem rather more complicated, I've no information on what's happened, but they're definitely more pissed off with him than Nick.
 
Thats bollocks.

We have absolutlely no basis on which to believe the Allams' side of the story, but we have insider information in more than one form for Barmby's. (I know he personally hasn't told it yet, but still) I, like many on here, lean towards Barmby.
 
It's bollocks from the point of view that they didn't make him do it, he did it of his volition, but it's what happened all the same.

Did they also make him stick rigidly to 4-2-3-1??

I dont believe it sorry just my opinion.

If it was true i think less of Barmby for going along with it.
 
Did they also make him stick rigidly to 4-2-3-1??

I dont believe it sorry just my opinion.

If it was true i think less of Barmby for going along with it.

When he stopped going along with it, he got sacked/suspended.

The formation thing, I thought at times we maybe should have changed the system but in hindsight the games we lost were because everyone was knackered (no new players brought in). If we wanted to play 4-4-2 you have to drop the player of the year who everyone says we can't win without.
 
I think Nick would rather manage Hull City than not. Whatever the circumstances.

From what I heard today, wether the whole 'coup' people think was going on was in fact going on or not has nothing to do with it now.

The ball is in Assem and Ehab's court is the phase I heard.

So there is still hope.

PS. I think the Allams need to realise teams need to strengthen even if they have players in that position. I get the impression the Sharp example was used because he showed interest in us and Nick preferred to stick with Fryatt, (which to the Allams looks like the wrong decision). I personally think if any 2 out of the 4 Nick targets had joined in Jan we would be in the play-offs.
 
When he stopped going along with it, he got sacked.

The formation thing, I thought at times we maybe should have changed the system but in hindsight the games we lost were because everyone was knackered (no new players brought in). If we wanted to play 4-4-2 you have to drop the player of the year who everyone says we can't win without.
He has not been sacked. He is suspended for in my eyes being unprofessional and disloyal to our owners. They dont want to sack him, i believe they never had any intention of sacking him. But they wanted to make him aware of his position.
 
He has not been sacked. He is suspended for in my eyes being unprofessional and disloyal to our owners. They dont want to sack him, i believe they never had any intention of sacking him. But they wanted to make him aware of his position.

I've since edited that word before reading this because as you say it's just a suspension for now and there now seems to be a chance he might stay.
 
I think that depends entirely on how things are resolved.

It's now my opinion(and purely my opinion) that the Allam's probably regret suspending Nick and if both parties can find a way out of this mess then he'll be re-instated. That being the case, I don't think anything will be officially confirmed one way or another, at least until Barmby writes a book some years down the line(should he choose to do so).

If things are not resolved, if the Allam's decide they don't want Nick back, or if Nick decides he can no longer work for them, then I think things will be revealed fairly soon and I'm sure things will come out that Papa Doc would rather didn't come out.

Firstly, the Allam's need to tell Nick they want him back, Nick then has to decide if he wants to come back. He remains completely gutted by recent events and I suspect his desire to manage Hull City would overrule his disappointment with what's gone on over the past week, but that's just my opinion.

Things with AP seem rather more complicated, I've no information on what's happened, but they're definitely more pissed off with him than Nick.

The Allam's were proved right though. We did need a new striker in January.
 
I think that depends entirely on how things are resolved.

It's now my opinion(and purely my opinion) that the Allam's probably regret suspending Nick and if both parties can find a way out of this mess then he'll be re-instated. That being the case, I don't think anything will be officially confirmed one way or another, at least until Barmby writes a book some years down the line(should he choose to do so).

If things are not resolved, if the Allam's decide they don't want Nick back, or if Nick decides he can no longer work for them, then I think things will be revealed fairly soon and I'm sure things will come out that Papa Doc would rather didn't come out.

Firstly, the Allam's need to tell Nick they want him back, Nick then has to decide if he wants to come back. He remains completely gutted by recent events and I suspect his desire to manage Hull City would overrule his disappointment with what's gone on over the past week, but that's just my opinion.

Things with AP seem rather more complicated, I've no information on what's happened, but they're definitely more pissed off with him than Nick.

Thanks for that. Here's hoping for a peaceful and positive resolution that moves the club forwards, not back.