If we get relegated what will Mr Allam do?

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ElTigre-HCAFC said:
All those Lancashire towns were clever enough to build a tradition of football supporting by having plenty of years in the first division. That's where City slipped up. When football was still young we didn't make it to the big league. Probably the year the club failed on goal average to go up to the top division was a defining year. The whole history of the club might have been different if we'd got an extra point that season.

Instead a club like Grimsby were far bigger back then with a good few years at the top of football. We missed out.
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They weren't clever they just formed football clubs before did and most were founder members of the league which enabled them to have years in the only division before we were formed and whilst Hull had 2 rugby league clubs.
Leeds were late into football and like us had no success despite spending time in Division One. But they did have considerably larger crowds and back then there wasn't as much difference in population as there is now.

You can do anything with figures but a few years ago a site published a list of all time average attendances. We were just behind Luton.
Have a look at this link and click on teams to have a look at historical crowds. A lot of places smaller than us didn't drop so low for so long. Though ourselves and Cardiff are different in that our highest ever average crowds were in the third division.
http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm
 
Castro's Coffin said:
They weren't clever they just formed football clubs before did and most were founder members of the league which enabled them to have years in the only division before we were formed and whilst Hull had 2 rugby league clubs.
Leeds were late into football and like us had no success despite spending time in Division One. But they did have considerably larger crowds and back then there wasn't as much difference in population as there is now.

You can do anything with figures but a few years ago a site published a list of all time average attendances. We were just behind Luton.
Have a look at this link and click on teams to have a look at historical crowds. A lot of places smaller than us didn't drop so low for so long. Though ourselves and Cardiff are different in that our highest ever average crowds were in the third division.
http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm
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Interesting. A few surprises in there if I'm honest. I wonder if anywhere has taken each seasons average attendance and made an all time average. That would certainly make interesting viewing.
 
Mr. Hat said:
Do you care about the football anymore?

Haven't seen you comment on the actual football for ages.
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It's very rare for me to comment on the football, there are quite a few posters who never post about the actual games.

There are a couple of reasons why I don't.

I have never played football as an adult and I find it difficult to post about tactics.

For me home matches are a full weekend away from home and that means that I hardly every post as I don't have time.
I spent years analysing games of hockey that I was involved in. Either as a player, team manager or umpire and to be honest, football was never like that for me. I enjoy watching Hull City and whilst I do not like us losing, I actually always find the matches enjoyable. Hockey was different, if my team lost I would look at why and make changes, it got beyond enjoyment and I don't want Hull City's matches to be like that. I can't watch hockey now as I get critical. If one team is losing I start to get angry if they don't change tactics. If the umpire makes a mistake I get on my high horse. It spoils it for me.
Watching Hull City is a pleasure for me, win lose or draw, I don't care. I have never watched a match and thought that I would rather be doing something else. I love the buzz of away matches. Home matches are different, I sit in the West Stand Upper and I get completely absorbed in the game play.
In my view we lost against Crystal Palace, because they closed us down, restricting our time on the ball. They stopped TH from distributing effectively. Jellybean dropped back five yards to deep and this stopped us from getting behind the defence. We passed the ball well but did not break the CP defence and gave the keeper the ball to punt up field to many times, resulting in a loss of possession. Meyer was a weak link who gave to ball away to easily under pressure. No one Long and Jellybean haven't had enough time to settle in and be affective. But we will be different today.
There you are, it's complete bollocks and that's another reason why I don't post about football much!
 
Castro's Coffin said:
They weren't clever they just formed football clubs before did and most were founder members of the league which enabled them to have years in the only division before we were formed and whilst Hull had 2 rugby league clubs.
Leeds were late into football and like us had no success despite spending time in Division One. But they did have considerably larger crowds and back then there wasn't as much difference in population as there is now.

You can do anything with figures but a few years ago a site published a list of all time average attendances. We were just behind Luton.
Have a look at this link and click on teams to have a look at historical crowds. A lot of places smaller than us didn't drop so low for so long. Though ourselves and Cardiff are different in that our highest ever average crowds were in the third division.
http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attn.htm
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Those Lancashire teams had plenty of years at the top later on when there were several divisions. City were formed in 1904. We can't say we were formed too late! Leeds might not have won trophies but they had "success" in that they had years in the top division.
 
Chazz Rheinhold said:
Fez said:
Eh??? Its a ****hole sorry Fez. Anlaby Rds a dump, Coltman St. down to St Georges Rd Drug central. Just where on the site would you build this hotel and leisure/retail centre??
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Ever heard of demolition and regeneration? Did you ever see areas of Salford, Glasgow, Newcastle, Sunderland, and many, many more before their regeneration? Take the blinkers off and see what inward investment could achieve.
Move Hull Fair and combine Walton St with it's surrounding areas and any decent developer would achieve something very special around a big venue that is (fairly uniquely in new stadia terms) a easy ten minute walk from the town centre. But, I have to admit, it is far easier to find reasons why not to do it and chase pie-in-the-sky dreams of partial supporter ownership because it works at Swansea - for now. Regenerate the club and the city, then you might get more of the people of Hull behind any initiative needed to promote it. This should not just be a football thing; there is a far bigger opportunity here - Allam has seen that, but gone about it badly.
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Mr. Hat said:
Interesting. A few surprises in there if I'm honest. I wonder if anywhere has taken each seasons average attendance and made an all time average. That would certainly make interesting viewing.
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They did. That was the list I referred to. We were just below Luton, though that was a few years ago so we might ha e overtaken them. Top London club was Spurs though again Arsenal will be catching up a bit since moving to the Emirates. I think Leeds were 12th.
Used to have it bookmarked but seems to have disappeared. Will have to try and find it.
 
Fez said:
Chazz Rheinhold said:
Ever heard of demolition and regeneration? Did you ever see areas of Salford, Glasgow, Newcastle, Sunderland, and many, many more before their regeneration? Take the blinkers off and see what inward investment could achieve.
Move Hull Fair and combine Walton St with it's surrounding areas and any decent developer would achieve something very special around a big venue that is (fairly uniquely in new stadia terms) a easy ten minute walk from the town centre. But, I have to admit, it is far easier to find reasons why not to do it and chase pie-in-the-sky dreams of partial supporter ownership because it works at Swansea - for now. Regenerate the club and the city, then you might get more of the people of Hull behind any initiative needed to promote it. This should not just be a football thing; there is a far bigger opportunity here - Allam has seen that, but gone about it badly.
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I havent got blinkers on Fez. I live here remember. I worked on Coltman St in the mid 80's when it was getting regenerated then, what a ****hole it was. The landlords got loads of work done to their flats for next to nowt and the same smack rats, scum etc carried on living there and its still a ****hole now. and always will be.

Move Hull Fair???!!! No chance this council wont do that. Its just not a good area and thats it.
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Chazz Rheinhold said:
Fez said:
I havent got blinkers on Fez. I live here remember. I worked on Coltman St in the mid 80's when it was getting regenerated then, what a ****hole it was. The landlords got loads of work done to their flats for next to nowt and the same smack rats, scum etc carried on living there and its still a ****hole now. and always will be.

Move Hull Fair???!!! No chance this council wont do that. Its just not a good area and thats it.
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Just leave it then, that's your solution to a problem you witnessed 30yrs ago.<whistle>
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Originally Posted by Bum_Chinned_Crab April 2012
Yes, but that could mean under 5's Drypool League or girl's hockey. The council are completely unable, as non owners of the club, to introduce a covenant saying that Hull City AFC as they are known today will continue to play their home games at the area presently known as the KC Stadium.

****ing hell---- BCC predictor king------ take a bow.
 
The Omega Man said:
Originally Posted by Bum_Chinned_Crab April 2012
Yes, but that could mean under 5's Drypool League or girl's hockey. The council are completely unable, as non owners of the club, to introduce a covenant saying that Hull City AFC as they are known today will continue to play their home games at the area presently known as the KC Stadium.

****ing hell---- BCC predictor king------ take a bow.
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Eh?
 
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