HOW LONG DO WE GIVE HIM ?

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DHCanary said:
To answer the original question honestly, if he isn't still here in May 2019 I'll be surprised. This is a squad thoroughly moulded in his image, like Mick McCarthy's at Ipswich, and I'm not sure anybody else would get more out of it - and we don't have the finances to pursue another direction so soon after the last sea-change.

My hope is that Farke continues to show that he's learning. The last international break resulted in clear tactical changes and improvements, hopefully the next one will too. Our paper-thin squad will hopefully be bolstered by some returning players, including hopefully a striker capable of scoring. A bit of a rest for the likes of Maddison and Klose is important too. And hopefully the players continue to learn too. The recent imports to better adapt to the league, and the older heads to adapt to the manager.
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Well said DH and I deliberately avoided this thread yesterday, as I was so angry that yet again CJ missed a goalden opportunity to give us the lead when we were so much in the ascendency.

DF is struggling with injuries to key players at the moment, but that should ease in the run up to Xmas and I'd love t see a return of 12 points (or more!!) out of our 6 games in December with only the Owls and the Bees at home -
Fri Dec 1 Cardiff (7.45pm)
Sat Dec 9 Sheff Weds (12.30pm)
Sat Dec 16 Leeds
Fri Dec 22 Brentford (7.45pm)
Tue Dec 26 Brum
Sat Dec 30 Burton

Leeds after a brilliant start when they were in the top 2 for a while, have lost 5 of their last 6 games!!! <yikes>
Let's hope the 'wheels' don't come off at Burton in the last game this year. <getscoatemoticon> <laugh>
 
KIO said:
FOUR straight defeats, one win in six games, no threat in front of goal whatsoever. This coming off the back of a long unbeaten run a la Hoootun. We seem to have been here before, is this the beginning of the end of [HASHTAG]#farkelife[/HASHTAG] ?
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Well considering he had no qualifications whatever to recommend himself for the job in the first place, I´m a bit surprised he´s lasted as long as he has done. A few more runs like we´re on at the moment though, and I can see the Snakepit and other volatile areas of the ground, giving him a bit of stick, very soon. Their patience tends to run out long before its sell-by date. <laugh>
 
DHCanary said:
Things aren't right on the pitch and that sucks for those watching week in, week out. The fans deserve entertaining. We are toothless up front, ponderous in possession and the defensive solidity we briefly found has evaporated. That can't continue.
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Spot on, DH.
And yet yesterday's team (against one win all season Bolton) was virtually the same side that took Arsenal into extra time just 10 or 11 days ago. And gave a damn fine account of themselves?
Go figure.
 
He's only been there for less than half a season! <doh> What makes you think that you'd get anyone decent to replace him even if old Delia did pull the trigger (which I very much doubt). Mick will be looking for a new gig in May so why not wait till then?
 
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Are we looking at some sort of player rebellion here? What has Farke done to upset the status quo? We will never know, unless we start to dive down the table and alarm bells start ringing.
 
Rather odd stat: Last time we won an away game in November, was in 2008. A 2-1 win away at Forrest.

Teamsheet: Marshall, Omozusi (Fotheringham 62), Kennedy, Doherty, Bertrand, Bell, Clingan, Croft, Pattison, Hoolahan (Otsemobor 22), Lita.
Subs Not Used: Nelson, Cureton, Lupoli.
 
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johnnywarksmoustache said:
He's only been there for less than half a season! <doh> What makes you think that you'd get anyone decent to replace him even if old Delia did pull the trigger (which I very much doubt). Mick will be looking for a new gig in May so why not wait till then?
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In a nutshell, we wouldn't expect anyone that we could know would be decent, Farke is a huge gamble, where we are right now, with Webber running the football side, we would likely recruit in exactly the same way, a German manager from the second/third or forth tier.
I'd be both horified and intreged to see what would happen if Mick got the head coach role at City. He is performing very ugly miracles for you binners on the budget he has, so to have a bigger budget I could actually see him doing well. Would I pay to see us under him, hell no!

Bah!
 
General Melchett said:
I'd be both horified and intreged to see what would happen if Mick got the head coach role at City. He is performing very ugly miracles for you binners on the budget he has, so to have a bigger budget I could actually see him doing well. Would I pay to see us under him, hell no!
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We'd have a few quid to spend if he was here, though.
Skilled players like Maddison, Pritchard and Murphy (sometimes) would all be surplus to requirements. That's few bob in the kitty to buy a couple of 6'6" target men
to lump the ball up to - :emoticon-0119-puke: :emoticon-0145-shake
 
Cromercanary said:
We'd have a few quid to spend if he was here, though.
Skilled players like Maddison, Pritchard and Murphy (sometimes) would all be surplus to requirements. That's few bob in the kitty to buy a couple of 6'6" target men
to lump the ball up to - :emoticon-0119-puke: :emoticon-0145-shake
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I think he'd try to keep at least Maddison, he needs someone to chuck the ball in to the big lumps, with Maddisons deliveries they'd score hatfuls!

Bah!
 
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carrowcanario said:
Keep Maddison sell Pritchard makes much more sense.
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It might make sense to us the fans but, no one will be beating down the door for a maybe recovered Pritchard. JM is hot property at the moment and unfortunately is the most likely to go to fund any further improvements. trouble is, JM is unlikely to be on the sort of wages that might attract a Gayle or some other goal scorer at a level we need.

Bah!
 
Cromercanary said:
We'd have a few quid to spend if he was here, though.
Skilled players like Maddison, Pritchard and Murphy (sometimes) would all be surplus to requirements. That's few bob in the kitty to buy a couple of 6'6" target men
to lump the ball up to - :emoticon-0119-puke: :emoticon-0145-shake
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As much as we are frustrated with Mick, we don't have any big burly 6ft+ target men that we "lump the ball up to" and haven't had one since Murphy left... (Much of the reason we were so terrible last season)

What he would do though is stop anyone from the defence trying to pass the ball out from back for fear of losing possession in 'dangerous areas' and give you a midfield which primarily worked to nullify the opponents (regardless of who they were) and would be afraid of making it much further than the safety of the halfway line..

But he's all yours if you want him. For all his faults you could (and we probably will) do a lot worse than Mick.
 
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It seemed clear to me in the summer that this was a long-term development we are embarking on rather than a quick fix. We had to save money and we did by letting good players like Ruddy and Bennett go. Both are now playing well for Wolves who can afford their salaries. The last three games have been discouraging but not because of the way we are playing. Paddy says it all at the end:

"There have been enough tangible signs of progress. It may be uneven. It may have been rationed at Carrow Road - compared with results on Norwich’s travels - but perspective and realism must remain the watchwords from this point."
 
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RiverEndRick said:
It seemed clear to me in the summer that this was a long-term development we are embarking on rather than a quick fix. We had to save money and we did by letting good players like Ruddy and Bennett go. Both are now playing well for Wolves who can afford their salaries. The last three games have been discouraging but not because of the way we are playing. Paddy says it all at the end:

"There have been enough tangible signs of progress. It may be uneven. It may have been rationed at Carrow Road - compared with results on Norwich’s travels - but perspective and realism must remain the watchwords from this point."
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On the contrary, this summer was in the main about the quickest fix possible to our bloated wage bill. Unfortunately if understandably, team building has come secondary to that. Personnally I was happy for both Ruddy and Bennett to leave as their most recent form in a City shirt did not imbue any great belief that they were still good players, or at least not justifibly good for the wages they were getting.
I am still remaining somewhere in the middle on whether Farke is working out. He certainly hasn't proved he is either a success or failure. But if sticking extra defensive players on the park and getting better at defending is revalatory then I'm in the wrong business! Those wins on the road and clean sheets give him some kudos, but the fact he had to pull our teeth to do it means we are still no where near where we need to be and so this jury member is still out. Our home form simply must improve.

Bah!
 
General Melchett said:
On the contrary, this summer was in the main about the quickest fix possible to our bloated wage bill. Unfortunately if understandably, team building has come secondary to that. Personnally I was happy for both Ruddy and Bennett to leave as their most recent form in a City shirt did not imbue any great belief that they were still good players, or at least not justifibly good for the wages they were getting.
I am still remaining somewhere in the middle on whether Farke is working out. He certainly hasn't proved he is either a success or failure. But if sticking extra defensive players on the park and getting better at defending is revalatory then I'm in the wrong business! Those wins on the road and clean sheets give him some kudos, but the fact he had to pull our teeth to do it means we are still no where near where we need to be and so this jury member is still out. Our home form simply must improve.

Bah!
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Ruddy & Bennett weren't great last season, but there was a defensive player that was worst, Martin. Since Martin hasn't feature in the squad funnily enough our defensive record is improving. I had a few disagreements with posters on here when I said it wasn't a surprise Ruddy was a nervous wreck playing behind a defence organised by Martin. What did we do got rid of Ruddy & Bennett and rewarded Martin with a contract extension, only a Norwich could this happen.
 
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