For goodness sake, engage brain for a millisecond will you. It's about context. Just as it's fine to have "laddish" conversations (usually somewhat tongue-in-cheek) when there's a group of you in the pub (by the way, yes, I'm a lot of fun at the pub), and it's fine for a group of women to discuss the aesthetics of some men, it's inappropriate in the workplace to pinch arses, call women chicks and judge upon looks. It's also inappropriate to do so in the context of an online forum where a discussion has been raised as to the various merits of a woman managing a football team. Please tell me that this isn't *that* hard to understand? And it's nothing to do with thought police, lefty politics. It's everything to do with respect.