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So far I have to say Parky was more likeable.
With Wilko, seemed an awful appt but the straw I clutched was his history of achievements.
 
I'm not going to judge him on his rangers spell tbh as I know a lot of things happened behind scenes that you and most don't know about. He must have been well regarded for them to pay off his contract at qpr to get him back. It didn't work out, but he's not the first manager to have a bad experience at old firm. Mowbray did as well. Even worse. He lost his last game 4.0 v St mirren but he recovered.

It's early days and far to sweeping to simply say he's unable to effect a game positively. Have you seen our bench?. He's not some miracle worker and as he says results are pretty much what they were for the 9 games before he arrived.
I'm not overly impressed with performances so far they've not been nearly as bad as many say. Pretty much same as all season. And he's had no Roberts or any left backs. The balance of the team isn't right. Surely he deserves a few more options and time on training field to make a difference. Is six weeks really long enough? How did Russell Martin do in his first six weeks?. Weren't very good at the SOL? But he was given a chance.

You're clueless -sorry.
His time on the training field is making us worse not better.

Wake up - Beale isn't a leader or a manager.
 
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Can you afford me some context please?
Yes Wilko horrendous but had actually won the top division with Leeds a few year earlier - Beale couldn't dream of that. Still a disaster but that's what Beale is a league below.
Mcmenemy we all thought we'd be good at the time.
Parky and Buxton either league 1 or at low ebb league COVID wise.

Listen mate you've got an agenda. If you were around at any time during the reign of those managers you wouldn't need any context cos you would actually KNOW why they weren't liked. Oh and for your information Buxton was well before COVID!
 
Listen mate you've got an agenda. If you were around at any time during the reign of those managers you wouldn't need any context cos you would actually KNOW why they weren't liked. Oh and for your information Buxton was well before COVID!

Dunno who you think you are like - been going since 1977. This clown is utterly impossible to support or think will succeed.

Can't think of anyone who's brought this on themselves so quickly before. He is a charlatan.
Speakmans bought it. Fans haven't.
 
Can you afford me some context please?
Yes Wilko horrendous but had actually won the top division with Leeds a few year earlier - Beale couldn't dream of that. Still a disaster but that's what Beale is a league below.
Mcmenemy we all thought we'd be good at the time.
Parky and Buxton either league 1 or at low ebb league COVID wise.
You contradict yourself so much here. You are saying Beale isn't good enough cos he doesn't have the pedigree yet Wilkinson and mcmeneny, who had the pedigree, were absolutely awful. There is no guarantees.

It's not about what they've done before it's about the fit and what they can do in this environment with this group of players. Beale, whether you agree or not, has experience of working with young players and, according to someone I know well, is a brilliant coach and well regarded in the game. Whether he can be a top.class manager remains to be seen but six weeks isn't long enough for me.
 
Dunno who you think you are like - been going since 1977. This clown is utterly impossible to support or think will succeed.

Can't think of anyone who's brought this on themselves so quickly before. He is a charlatan.
Speakmans bought it. Fans haven't.

So what are you going to do? Keep posting the same stuff till everyone on here agrees with you? Ok you don't like Beale, we get it! Now change the tune
 
Honestly what does that even mean. I hate crap like that. It's such a ****ing cliche. What do you mean he doesn't get club?
Getting slightly agitated there mate.
However I will explain, Roy Keane, Peter Reid, BSA, Gus are some of the managers that I would class as getting it.
Roy Keane admitted himself he didn't understand how intense the passion for a football club could be till he came here.
He'd heard about it, felt it slightly when he played here but didn't actually understand how it felt till he was amongst it everyday.
So many players have said how they heard about the passion in the north east but you'll never understand till you live it.
Roy Keane mentions in his book , Man Utd fans of one of the most famous clubs in the world get beat on a Saturday the fans are miserable all day on Sunday, if sunderland get beat on a Saturday they are miserable till the following Saturday that's how much it means to them, it is their life.
That's what I mean when I say some managers don't get the club, maybes I'm wrong and they all get it and it just seems like some show it more than others.
I didn't want Beale but I'm certainly not one for calling him to be sacked. However I don't think some of his comments are doing him any favours, there are people that will never accept him even if he goes on a 10 game winning run, there are people who will accept him because the club have employed him.
There are also quite a few on the fence that could go either way that he could do with their backing.
I really hopes he turns things round for one simple reason, that's the effect it will have on sunderland which in the end is all that matters
 
You're clueless -sorry.
His time on the training field is making us worse not better.

Wake up - Beale isn't a leader or a manager.
How am I clueless? Have you worked with him? Do you know people who have? You are judging him on a few games and completely writing him off. Go back to the games prior to his arrival and does that make Mowbray clueless and not a leader or manager. It takes longer than six weeks
 
Getting slightly agitated there mate.
However I will explain, Roy Keane, Peter Reid, BSA, Gus are some of the managers that I would class as getting it.
Roy Keane admitted himself he didn't understand how intense the passion for a football club could be till he came here.
He'd heard about it, felt it slightly when he played here but didn't actually understand how it felt till he was amongst it everyday.
So many players have said how they heard about the passion in the north east but you'll never understand till you live it.
Roy Keane mentions in his book , Man Utd fans of one of the most famous clubs in the world get beat on a Saturday the fans are miserable all day on Sunday, if sunderland get beat on a Saturday they are miserable till the following Saturday that's how much it means to them, it is their life.
That's what I mean when I say some managers don't get the club, maybes I'm wrong and they all get it and it just seems like some show it more than others.
I didn't want Beale but I'm certainly not one for calling him to be sacked. However I don't think some of his comments are doing him any favours, there are people that will never accept him even if he goes on a 10 game winning run, there are people who will accept him because the club have employed him.
There are also quite a few on the fence that could go either way that he could do with their backing.
I really hopes he turns things round for one simple reason, that's the effect it will have on sunderland which in the end is all that matters
Still think the whole 'get it' stuff is bollocks tbh. He's been at rangers and other big clubs so understands that football is important to fans.
 
Come on then?
He's well on the way to the top of this list for me.

" ... our most unpopular manager in 140 years."

Nothing personal but I keep seeing these definitive statements ...

... followed by an instant backtrack when challenged.

It's gone from definitely the worst in everyone's lifetime to one of the worst in yours within two posts.

Moyes was way more unpopular and there's probably a dozen more I could easily name.

Does this fella ring any bells <doh>

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Graeme Anderson
5 NOV 2018

"Still a hate figure among many supporters, after his arrival was expected to signal Sunderland’s return to former glories, only to leave them on the brink of relegation to the third tier of English football."
 
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I'll see your Beale as most unpopular and raise you, Wilkinson, McMenemy, Parkinson and maybe Buxton for starters. You can take your pick

McMenemy too early for me and can only just remember Buxton. But genuinely celebrated the sacking of Wilkinson running through the house shouting on and phoning people to tell them !
Parkinson was more relief and I’d add streaky Lee and Di Canio to that as well
 
McMenemy too early for me and can only just remember Buxton. But genuinely celebrated the sacking of Wilkinson running through the house shouting on and phoning people to tell them !
Parkinson was more relief and I’d add streaky Lee and Di Canio to that as well

I was on board with Moyes until he gave up and I’ll never forgive him for that and his signings my god!