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originallambrettaman said:
City vs Leicester – Protest Details

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Although there are rumours of a takeover being close, we’ve been here before and yet the club is still in the Allams’ hands. So we’ll continue to protest against the way they’re running the club at this Saturday’s match against Leicester. See the bottom of this page for a timeline of protest activities.

We’ve received plenty of suggestions from fans for various protest ideas. Some of these suggestions have involved walkouts or late walk-ins, or even disrupting the game. We’re not encouraging anything along those lines at this stage. The important thing for us is that the protests are well organised and observed by the majority. The worst case scenario is that different groups of fans try to carry out different protests and none of them really work as a result of the diluted efforts.

It may be that in the near future, if the current farce at the club continues and the club is not sold, we have to step it up again and maybe then would be the time to consider more active protests.

The aim of what we’re encouraging now is to highlight for the TV cameras how upset City fans are, and bring attention to the various issues we have with the Allams’ ownership of the club, such as the detestable pricing out of children, seniors and the disabled from attending matches, forced seat moves and the ongoing obsession at the club with eradicating any reference to the word ‘City’. A lot of neutrals still don’t understand what is going on at Hull City. We want to make sure that they can start to understand after seeing this match on TV, we want to make the pundits discuss the situation and we want to bring attention to the shocking mismanagement of the club by the Allams.

To this end, we’re proposing a large and widespread visual and vocal demonstration. This means red cards again, but also banners and plenty of singing. We’re asking fans to hold up a red card as the teams emerge before kickoff and make yourself heard vocally. If you have a banner (it must be smaller than 6 feet by 4 feet and be certified as fire safe, or the club could refuse its entry on the grounds of safety), bring that along and hold it up at this point too. We’ve commissioned several banners to help make our point but it’s definitely ‘the more the merrier’ so if you’ve got one bring it, and if not, consider making one.

When the match reaches 19 minutes and 4 seconds in, we’ll do it again. This of course is the time at which fans have protested against attempts to change the club’s name by singing ‘City Til I Die’, in reference to the club being founded in 1904. Get those cards and banners up and sing loud. Make sure the cameras see and hear how unhappy we are.

For the rest of the game, we’re asking fans to just sing loud and proud as normal. Keep those banners up if you like, but the main thing is that we make a noise. The players are certainly going to need that backing. Some people think that protesting means not giving the lads our support, so let’s show them that’s not the case.

We’ll be distributing red cards from various entry points to the stadium area, as well as from our base at the William Gemmell pub on Anlaby Road. Cards will also be available to collect from the Tigers Lair pub, where a separate group of supporters are meeting ahead of a protest march to the stadium, and also from the Circle 87 cafe, partners of HCST and located opposite the stadium on Anlaby Road.

We’d appreciate any help distributing the cards, so if you’d like to help, meet us at the William Gemmell pub at 10:30am. Here we’ll be co-ordinating the distribution of cards to ensure that they’re easily available for fans arriving at the ground. The bar will be open here and the nearby Circle 87 Cafe will be selling food.

In addition to these demonstrations inside the ground, there are also thousands who no longer attend home matches while the Allams own the club, and many have told us that they want to be involved but won’t be entering the stadium. So as not to exclude these people, there will also be a demonstration outside the West stand reception at 12 o’clock noon. Everyone is welcome to join this. We understand that there will be media on the scene so this is another great chance to make ourselves heard. The ‘Allam Out Protest March’, which has been organised separately from HCST, will culminate here so that fans can join this demonstration together.

Timeline of protest activities:

10:30 – Meet at the William Gemmell pub if you’d like to help with protests. Also at this time, the ‘Allam Out Protest March’ meet at Tigers Lair.

12:00pm – Demonstration outside the West stand reception including fans who are not attending the game.

12:25pm – Teams come out for kickoff. Hold up your red cards and banners and make yourself heard vocally.

12:30pm – Kickoff. Make as much noise as you can, as normal.

19 minutes and 4 seconds into the match – Hold up your cards and banners again, sing ‘City Til I Die’ and anything else you can think of to make yourself heard.

Rest of match – Make as much noise as you can, as normal.

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well written and sensible
 
Tried sharing it on the FB groups but it's getting deleted. I'll leave them to walk out on their own.
 
originallambrettaman said:
City vs Leicester – Protest Details

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Although there are rumours of a takeover being close, we’ve been here before and yet the club is still in the Allams’ hands. So we’ll continue to protest against the way they’re running the club at this Saturday’s match against Leicester. See the bottom of this page for a timeline of protest activities.

We’ve received plenty of suggestions from fans for various protest ideas. Some of these suggestions have involved walkouts or late walk-ins, or even disrupting the game. We’re not encouraging anything along those lines at this stage. The important thing for us is that the protests are well organised and observed by the majority. The worst case scenario is that different groups of fans try to carry out different protests and none of them really work as a result of the diluted efforts.

It may be that in the near future, if the current farce at the club continues and the club is not sold, we have to step it up again and maybe then would be the time to consider more active protests.

The aim of what we’re encouraging now is to highlight for the TV cameras how upset City fans are, and bring attention to the various issues we have with the Allams’ ownership of the club, such as the detestable pricing out of children, seniors and the disabled from attending matches, forced seat moves and the ongoing obsession at the club with eradicating any reference to the word ‘City’. A lot of neutrals still don’t understand what is going on at Hull City. We want to make sure that they can start to understand after seeing this match on TV, we want to make the pundits discuss the situation and we want to bring attention to the shocking mismanagement of the club by the Allams.

To this end, we’re proposing a large and widespread visual and vocal demonstration. This means red cards again, but also banners and plenty of singing. We’re asking fans to hold up a red card as the teams emerge before kickoff and make yourself heard vocally. If you have a banner (it must be smaller than 6 feet by 4 feet and be certified as fire safe, or the club could refuse its entry on the grounds of safety), bring that along and hold it up at this point too. We’ve commissioned several banners to help make our point but it’s definitely ‘the more the merrier’ so if you’ve got one bring it, and if not, consider making one.

When the match reaches 19 minutes and 4 seconds in, we’ll do it again. This of course is the time at which fans have protested against attempts to change the club’s name by singing ‘City Til I Die’, in reference to the club being founded in 1904. Get those cards and banners up and sing loud. Make sure the cameras see and hear how unhappy we are.

For the rest of the game, we’re asking fans to just sing loud and proud as normal. Keep those banners up if you like, but the main thing is that we make a noise. The players are certainly going to need that backing. Some people think that protesting means not giving the lads our support, so let’s show them that’s not the case.

We’ll be distributing red cards from various entry points to the stadium area, as well as from our base at the William Gemmell pub on Anlaby Road. Cards will also be available to collect from the Tigers Lair pub, where a separate group of supporters are meeting ahead of a protest march to the stadium, and also from the Circle 87 cafe, partners of HCST and located opposite the stadium on Anlaby Road.

We’d appreciate any help distributing the cards, so if you’d like to help, meet us at the William Gemmell pub at 10:30am. Here we’ll be co-ordinating the distribution of cards to ensure that they’re easily available for fans arriving at the ground. The bar will be open here and the nearby Circle 87 Cafe will be selling food.

In addition to these demonstrations inside the ground, there are also thousands who no longer attend home matches while the Allams own the club, and many have told us that they want to be involved but won’t be entering the stadium. So as not to exclude these people, there will also be a demonstration outside the West stand reception at 12 o’clock noon. Everyone is welcome to join this. We understand that there will be media on the scene so this is another great chance to make ourselves heard. The ‘Allam Out Protest March’, which has been organised separately from HCST, will culminate here so that fans can join this demonstration together.

Timeline of protest activities:

10:30 – Meet at the William Gemmell pub if you’d like to help with protests. Also at this time, the ‘Allam Out Protest March’ meet at Tigers Lair.

12:00pm – Demonstration outside the West stand reception including fans who are not attending the game.

12:25pm – Teams come out for kickoff. Hold up your red cards and banners and make yourself heard vocally.

12:30pm – Kickoff. Make as much noise as you can, as normal.

19 minutes and 4 seconds into the match – Hold up your cards and banners again, sing ‘City Til I Die’ and anything else you can think of to make yourself heard.

Rest of match – Make as much noise as you can, as normal.

http://hullcitysupporterstrust.com/city-vs-leicester-protest-details/
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I don't agree with the protest in any shape or form & will not be joining in. However, I am pleased that there seems to be a bit of sense being shown in what is being proposed by the HCST as opposed to the mad rantings that have been constantly re-appearing on this forum - mostly by people who say they will be boycotting the match anyway!! I'm looking forward to the start of the season - protests aside - & let's hope for a 3 point start for the lads.
 
Irememberwaggy said:
I don't agree with the protest in any shape or form & will not be joining in. However, I am pleased that there seems to be a bit of sense being shown in what is being proposed by the HCST as opposed to the mad rantings that have been constantly re-appearing on this forum - mostly by people who say they will be boycotting the match anyway!! I'm looking forward to the start of the season - protests aside - & let's hope for a 3 point start for the lads.
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And you're right not to, that's been your consistent view

Will you be politely allowing those who do want to protest to get on with it though? Or will you be tutting or booing at all?

I would hope not
 
Red represents joy, happiness and prosperity in China. <ok>
 
Just been a guy on RH saying that there should be no protest and that they are in the minority.
Surely cant have his head that far in yhe sand.
 
Irememberwaggy said:
I don't agree with the protest in any shape or form & will not be joining in. However, I am pleased that there seems to be a bit of sense being shown in what is being proposed by the HCST as opposed to the mad rantings that have been constantly re-appearing on this forum - mostly by people who say they will be boycotting the match anyway!! I'm looking forward to the start of the season - protests aside - & let's hope for a 3 point start for the lads.
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Do we give a toss what your opinion of boycotters or attendees are..... let me think.... NO!!!!
 
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Really? One of the few people pushing the walk-out and basically because their idea isn't supported, they're spitting their dummy out.
 
dennisboothstash said:
I dont think anyone on here supported a walkout did they? Certainly not enough to disagree that a small one would be worse than none
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I don't think anybody on here supports a walkout.

I don't think many support it at all.

It's just a few people spouting off on those groups believing they can tell everybody what to do (as seen in that picture above). Hopefully they get kicked out if that's their attitude rather than them return at half time.
 
dennisboothstash said:
I dont think anyone on here supported a walkout did they? Certainly not enough to disagree that a small one would be worse than none
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I personally thought a walk out would be more effective, but realistically you are more likely to get people to hold up cards than walk out.
Should have given everyone a free beer token that can only be used between 19:04 and 25:00, would have emptied the place.
 
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dennisboothstash said:
I dont think anyone on here supported a walkout did they? Certainly not enough to disagree that a small one would be worse than none
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There's the rub. Which, if either, is more representative? That Facebook group certainly has more members than here or any other supporters group I can think of, but neither here nor there has had a proper discussion or got organised.

That group seems to have an editorial policy, whereas this has a habit of rounding on anyone not following the perceived board mainstream wisdom, when in reality it tends to be the stated view of a minority of board users. It deters many from commenting.

It's why I keep banging on about communication and involvement. It's not a negative position, it's a positive one.
 
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but the trouble is yet again that small groups doing their thing with no actual leadership do not feel part of the bigger collective ... this is a problem and will leave Saturday fractured at best
 
Their walkout is going to look ridiculous yet they're deluded enough to think it's going to be effective and everybody is going to do it.

The red card protest will be better supported and look more effective on camera than a few people leaving each exit. Least Sky - broadcasting the game - are aware of the red card protest.
 
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Depending on how the game starts, with the two they have up front, if we are a goal or two down, the fans anger will quickly come to the fore, not at the players, but at the owners lack of backing Phelan and the remaining players.
This could ensure more people walk out at 19:04, or perhaps enter the playing field at 19:04, which I do not condone of course.
If Leicester get off to a flyer will certainly be interesting.
 
Cortez91 said:
Their walkout is going to look ridiculous yet they're deluded enough to think it's going to be effective and everybody is going to do it.

The red card protest will be better supported and look more effective on camera than a few people leaving each exit. Least Sky - broadcasting the game - are aware of the red card protest.
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that's the thing , its not meant to be a competition , its meant to be a united protest ... and being honest the cameras .. will they really show cards ? or will they show empty seats ?
 
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Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
There's the rub. Which, if either, is more representative? That Facebook group certainly has more members than here or any other supporters group I can think of, but neither here nor there has had a proper discussion or got organised.

That group seems to have an editorial policy, whereas this has a habit of rounding on anyone not following the perceived board mainstream wisdom, when in reality it tends to be the stated view of a minority of board users. It deters many from commenting.

It's why I keep banging on about communication and involvement. It's not a negative position, it's a positive one.
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If you're talking about the Fans Forum group - they have 8,298 people in the group. Yet no more than 300 of them are "walking out". Of course, not everybody who have said they are walking out, will walk out/even attend the game. Likewise, some people may walk out who aren't in the group.

All that walkout group is doing is splitting fans up. All for a few people to their opinions over and over as if it counts more than the rest of ours.

You're right DMD - more organisation was needed much earlier for something more united and potentially more effective.
 
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