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Are there any examples of similar protests at other clubs that have worked so we can learn from them?

I know Blackpool and Newcastle keep trying. Leeds have had some and arguably ended up worse off. We've had our own in the past.

It could be useful to learn from experience.
 
Cortez91 said:
(1)The players already know they're supported[/B] and know the fans are solely against the ownership of our club.

Agree though, hope we don't have any idiots going on the pitch.(2) Not even sure the walk-out is a good idea.

(3) The sit-in after the game is gathering momentum.
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(1) Good news
(2) I think it'll be the most effective as the TV cameras & match commentators will not be able to avoid filming it and commentating on the temporary walk-out.
(3) Great. If it's obvious to the TV crew it's embellishing an earlier action (temp. walkout), they may well stay to cover & report it.
Combination of all of the above, plus recruiting the Leicester fans to show support for our cause during a temp walkout would, I believe, maximzse the impact.
Plus the reporting of any other demonstration activity taking place as well of course.
 
Duffens_Briefs said:
Just a couple of questions about Satdee:
Will the Alarms be there to see the protest?
Will they care?

I think both answers to these questions are 'No'...A walk out will hurt players more than those two. Therefore I'll be sat in my seat throughout The best time to protest might be after the game, come win-lose or draw..but its a free country and like a lot of former Allam supporters I now wish to see the back of them just like the next guy..
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The Allams won't be there (I believe this was confirmed by the club).

I'm sure that there's some aspects of the protesting that will upset them.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
I actually quoted someone else entirely and you engaged with me, not sure how it's me looking for the argument.

It wasn't just one word with a typo, the entire sentence made no sense, which is why OLM asked what you meant.
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I asked a perfectly reasonable question and got a load of arsey ****e in return. It's not really important, I'm used to it.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
I asked a perfectly reasonable question and got a load of arsey ****e in return. It's not really important, I'm used to it.
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I know the feeling well. There's a theme runs right through it.

Edit. Whoops, dropped an aitch.
 
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originallambrettaman said:
The walk-out will be a washout, it has nowhere near enough support, I think it should be forgotten, but it doesn't look like it will be.
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I agree, it will just look like a few people going to beat the queues for refreshments. Much better to have visual high impact protests whilst the live cameras are recording.

The [HASHTAG]#AskEhab[/HASHTAG] dunce hat flag or flags (one for each stand) would be an excellent start, but probably not enough turn around time.

Throwing shoes or fez hats onto the pitch?

Then a continuation of the usual anti Allam songs.
 
The sea of red will really stand out against the team colours, it will be well supported and is bound to be a talking point. As a first step it an excellent move, need something new for when Man Utd. come which is also on the telly I think.
 
Fez said:
It's taken a long time, but ...


<laugh>
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<ok>

Is there anything you've seen from the Newcastle protests that we could adopt or avoid?

I've had a look around clubs like Charlton and Swansea, and they seem to be suffering the same as us, with fans largely in agreement about the problem, but disfunctional as far as agreeing a solution.

Oddly, the most 'united' fans see to be TWS, who just seem largely resigned to fate.
 
Cortez91 said:
The sit-in after the game is gathering momentu
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Yep, I'm determined to stay in the pub after the game. <ok>

On a more serious note:

Pitch invasions are bad on all levels and cans lead to lifetime bans.

Throwing anything is irresponsible and should result in a lifetime ban.

If I had the passion I once felt for the club (which has been slowly but surely eroded by the owners - and some on here) I would enter the ground and leave on 19:04 - wearing a red shirt is a good idea that has come up and would be added.

Don't risk the wellbeing of yourselves and others because of the Allam family, as they are simply not worth it - things will sort themselves out eventually, then the rebuild can begin.
 
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Hull City AFC (DMD) said:
<ok>

Is there anything you've seen from the Newcastle protests that we could adopt or avoid?

I've had a look around clubs like Charlton and Swansea, and they seem to be suffering the same as us, with fans largely in agreement about the problem, but disfunctional as far as agreeing a solution.

Oddly, the most 'united' fans see to be TWS, who just seem largely resigned to fate.
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I watched the Newcastle demos closely and know many who were involved, but I think we are best served by not copying them.

Their collective 'white sheet' games (remember the FA Cup?) were ineffectual, unpleasant and did the rep of the fan base no good whatsoever.

Their anger and rioting at the derby game was reprehensible; if that was supporting sport then count me out.

I saw many Newcastle and Sunderland supporters find reasons to stop buying season tickets and stop or reduce their attendance (just as at the KCOM); I have seen many of them return. I think it will be the same with us. I drive a lot during my work week so that extra weekend drive is probably my biggest disincentive these days, but who knows?

I haven't really joined in this discussion as I once would, mainly because I will not be there and don't feel comfortable arguing the toss.

What I would offer is that I totally understand your argument of inclusion, discussion and unity (I hope that does it justice). I also think it is a huge challenge to rationalise it on these threads. I maybe wrong but, perhaps, it is counterproductive to it's own aim of unity, as it clearly riles so many when pushed in the circumstances that have prevailed.

I trust the Trust. You know I have been a member from CTWD days, but you should also recall that I have pulled them up when I thought it necessary.

Time and resource must play a part, just as the unreliability of anonymous threads should do, too. I believe we should give the Trust an opportunity to do it their way and we should see where that takes us. The actions of others is for them to consider.

I think this sorry debacle is coming to an end and I hope it moves quickly.

What I think would be useful is for folk to discuss (as you have described) how to rebuild, rather than how to fight, as I think there are far more options for this and it is a more constructive group effort that will counter the destructive negativity surround the club. It would be excellent to show new owners that their customers (and potential customers) are caring, proactive and supportive.

The Trust do need to talk to the wider population, just as they need to talk to the Trust. I believe this happens to a degree, but I think circumstances make it difficult to develop in the right way.

Sorry, longer than intended; perhaps I still care more than I think. <ok>
 
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Fez said:
I watched the Newcastle demos closely and know many who were involved, but I think we are best served by not copying them.

Their collective 'white sheet' games (remember the FA Cup?) were ineffectual, unpleasant and did the rep of the fan base no good whatsoever.

Their anger and rioting at the derby game was reprehensible; if that was supporting sport then count me out.

I saw many Newcastle and Sunderland supporters find reasons to stop buying season tickets and stop or reduce their attendance (just as at the KCOM); I have seen many of them return. I think it will be the same with us. I drive a lot during my work week so that extra weekend drive is probably my biggest disincentive these days, but who knows?

I haven't really joined in this discussion as I once would, mainly because I will not be there and don't feel comfortable arguing the toss.

What I would offer is that I totally understand your argument of inclusion, discussion and unity (I hope that does it justice). I also think it is a huge challenge to rationalise it on these threads. I maybe wrong but, perhaps, it is counterproductive to it's own aim of unity, as it clearly riles so many when pushed in the circumstances that have prevailed.

I trust the Trust. You know I have been a member from CTWD days, but you should also recall that I have pulled them up when I thought it necessary.

Time and resource must play a part, just as the unreliability of anonymous threads should do, too. I believe we should give the Trust an opportunity to do it their way and we should see where that takes us. The actions of others is for them to consider.

I think this sorry debacle is coming to an end and I hope it moves quickly.

What I think would be useful is for folk to discuss (as you have described) how to rebuild, rather than how to fight, as I think there are far more options for this and it is a more constructive group effort that will counter the destructive negativity surround the club. It would be excellent to show new owners that their customers (and potential customers) are caring, proactive and supportive.

The Trust do need to talk to the wider population, just as they need to talk to the Trust. I believe this happens to a degree, but I think circumstances make it difficult to develop in the right way.

Sorry, longer than intended; perhaps I still care more than I think. <ok>
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I can take all of that, particularly the bit about it getting people's backs up.

I think we're part of a bigger football issue. Several clubs have similar issues. I mentioned Swansea, as there are many similarities, including fans objecting to forced seat moves, a lack of communication between club, trust and supporters, and a recent buy out by Americans. It can be argued as a success or failure depending how you view it. I'd say it's a work in progress where lessons can be learned.

I think the end game should be through the fsf/sd to get tighter controls on how clubs are operated, or the protests will remain, but the club's involved will change (eventually).
 
The Trust will be making an announcement today for the plans.

No. I am not on the trust board.
 
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