Guardian article re name change

[FILEYseadog]

I am NOT a new fan and i am so NOT a glory Hunter. I wont piss off what ever league we are in.

Hull City....Hull Tigers.

im Not that bothered to be honest.

To me the Allams are our best owners ever.

We have our best squad ever.

And once we finish above 17th Steve Bruce will be our best manager ever though i think he already is.

Roll on saturday...

 

[originallambrettaman]

The only "war" that is about to start is between City fans themselves.

The more the anti-brigade stick their boots in and attack the Allams, the more vocal the pro Allam supporters will become.

This is NOT the same as Newcastle. At Newcastle, Mike Ashley is unanimously disliked by the supporters. This is not the case at Hull City. Do not underestimate the % of fans of who the Allams can do no wrong because they have brought them from the brink of extinction to premier league football. And they continue to invest in the club on the pitch.

As the vast majority of fans are pro-Allam, but anti-name change, there is no war between City fans.

In fact, is there anyone who is pro-Hull Tigers?

 

[Fez]

The only "war" that is about to start is between City fans themselves.

The more the anti-brigade stick their boots in and attack the Allams, the more vocal the pro Allam supporters will become.

This is NOT the same as Newcastle. At Newcastle, Mike Ashley is unanimously disliked by the supporters. This is not the case at Hull City. Do not underestimate the % of fans of who the Allams can do no wrong because they have brought them from the brink of extinction to premier league football. And they continue to invest in the club on the pitch.

That % of fans might do well to distinguish between a club being saved and it's status being maintained. I would rather we keep our name, heritage and integrity as Hull City AFC than sell our souls to the devil of blind commercialisation, regardless of what league we compete in. There are more ways than one to measure success; just as there is for failure, deceit and pomposity.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Ps, does Abdoulaye Faye still play much? He was an absolute beast for us, we got a massive picture of him on the side of the Britannia.

He got injured in pre-season, so he's not played yet this season.

He got an hour for the ressies midweek, so hopefully he'll be back on the bench tomorrow.

He won't get in our starting XI now, but he's great back-up.

 

[bum_chinned_crab]

I am NOT a new fan and i am so NOT a glory Hunter. I wont piss off what ever league we are in.

I won't piss of whatever league WE are in. I will piss off if Hull Tigers replace Hull City cos I don't support them.

Hull City in the Conference vs Hull Tigers in the Premier League? No contest.

 

[goldentruetiger]

Lots of passion, as a hcafc fan for 35+ years am also passionate about the club and its history and future prospects.

I wish all of those in the board could see beyond the name change, I get its important to some of you but it will not define what our club and players achieve in the future.

That passion (and venom) needs channelling properly into something tangible and positive that can lift the players each week.

I would urge you to direct this as support and let's stop feeding the media what they want keeping the name change in the papers.

We need to be known for more than that ie results and great football.

Cardiff thus sat, a home win and great football to look forward to after the dullness of the international break.

Utt

And thanks for the 4 star rating lob and twf.

 

[Fez]

i won't piss of whatever league we are in. I will piss off if hull tigers replace hull city cos i don't support them.

Hull city in the conference vs hull tigers in the premier league? No contest.

^^^^^ this ^^^^^

 

[Jimmy Graham's bald head]

i won't piss of whatever league we are in. I will piss off if hull tigers replace hull city cos i don't support them.

Hull city in the conference vs hull tigers in the premier league? No contest.

^^^^^ this ^^^^^

Agreed!

 

[Happy Tiger]

In time I'll begin simply checking the results on Ceefax on Saturday evenings. At some point after that, I'm going to stop even looking for the score.

I'm pleased that Allam has finally stated what I have been saying for the past couple of years - he is a businessman, not a City fan. Hopefully now a few more fans will wake up.

Ceefax? lol good luck with that.

So you been saying what Dr Allam said at the beginning about him being a business man? So you agree with him too. Welcome to the club!

Having had a chance to properly investigate what's going on, I'm going to nail my colours to the mast and say I fully support Dr Allam. For a while I was of the view the name change to Hull Tigers wasn't a great idea, but I now think its fine. He knows what he's doing and I trust him to manage his and our club better than it's ever been and to see him propel our club to greater success both on and off the field.

Not only did he save us, not only did he reduce the chance of us suffering another drop down the leagues, with his own money, he cleared out all the deadwood and crap from the club both personnel wise and infrastructure wise, he brought in a proper decent manager, funded some good players and saw us promoted again way quicker than the majority of us imagined. So yeah, I think he knows what he's doing, and certainly knows more about business than anyone posting on here.

A bigger threat to the unity and success of our club is the type of posters we see on here who rant online, and try to create divisions between fans where they do not exist, and always seem to resort to name calling and belittling anyone who doesn't fall in with their pack mentality. The same people who even talk down about fans in certain areas of the ground who have supported the team longer than some of these warriors have been alive.

West Stand?
Travel to every game on Tiger Travel?
Support the owners?
Happy to carry on supporting the club they have for years regardless of any change to the name?
Sitting down?

Oh, the person calling for 500 of those comedy banners...assuming it takes 2 people to hold one up, I'd probably start off with say, 10, that way you'll have a couple spare if one gets dirty. Stop presuming to talk for the majority, you talk for yourselves only.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Ceefax? lol good luck with that.

So you been saying what Dr Allam said at the beginning about him being a business man? So you agree with him too. Welcome to the club!

Having had a chance to properly investigate what's going on, I'm going to nail my colours to the mast and say I fully support Dr Allam. For a while I was of the view the name change to Hull Tigers wasn't a great idea, but I now think its fine. He knows what he's doing and I trust him to manage his and our club better than it's ever been and to see him propel our club to greater success both on and off the field.

Not only did he save us, not only did he reduce the chance of us suffering another drop down the leagues, with his own money, he cleared out all the deadwood and crap from the club both personnel wise and infrastructure wise, he brought in a proper decent manager, funded some good players and saw us promoted again way quicker than the majority of us imagined. So yeah, I think he knows what he's doing, and certainly knows more about business than anyone posting on here.

A bigger threat to the unity and success of our club is the type of posters we see on here who rant online, and try to create divisions between fans where they do not exist, and always seem to resort to name calling and belittling anyone who doesn't fall in with their pack mentality. The same people who even talk down about fans in certain areas of the ground who have supported the team longer than some of these warriors have been alive.

West Stand?
Travel to every game on Tiger Travel?
Support the owners?
Happy to carry on supporting the club they have for years regardless of any change to the name?
Sitting down?

Oh, the person calling for 500 of those comedy banners...assuming it takes 2 people to hold one up, I'd probably start off with say, 10, that way you'll have a couple spare if one gets dirty. Stop presuming to talk for the majority, you talk for yourselves only.

Same old ****e.

We know you don't give a **** about the name, or about being bubbled, or anything else that I can remember.

Leave this to those who do care(and that's not the minority, not by a long chalk).

 

[StrovolosTiger]

As the vast majority of fans are pro-Allam, but anti-name change, there is no war between City fans.

In fact, is there anyone who is pro-Hull Tigers?

There will be a war between City fans and it will happen when the the more vociferous minority find they haven't the support they thought they had and start abusing those who are of a different opinion to them. It's already started with certain nobeds on here labelling those that disagree with them "plastics" or "glory hunters" or "poodles" just as your mate Skelton is starting to distort the truth on twitter now.

 

[juleskaren]

Fez I am with you on this. From the beginning I have always just had an instinctive dislike of Allam which I know sounds crazy as he has put a lot of money and investment into the club but he is basically just a "batty old man". Really how can anyone take him seriously when they read the stuff he is coming out with, he will make this club a laughing stock, a huge joke, the only club in the Premier League with a daft name and an owner deluding himself that other clubs will look at us in envy and wish they could have a name change to Manchester Hunters etc. God its is just so ridiculous how can anyone be happy about this.

Not only did he save us, not only did he reduce the chance of us suffering another drop down the leagues, with his own money, he cleared out all the deadwood and crap from the club both personnel wise and infrastructure wise, he brought in a proper decent manager, funded some good players and saw us promoted again way quicker than the majority of us imagined.

I know he did all this and I know I should be happy about it but I just can't be because he seems like he is intent on destroying what he has created just with his own ego. I just keep shaking my head in disbelief at anyone who thinks this whole Tigers idea is a good one.

 

[StrovolosTiger]

Fez I am with you on this. From the beginning I have always just had an instinctive dislike of Allam which I know sounds crazy as he has put a lot of money and investment into the club but he is basically just a "batty old man". Really how can anyone take him seriously when they read the stuff he is coming out with, he will make this club a laughing stock, a huge joke, the only club in the Premier League with a daft name and an owner deluding himself that other clubs will look at us in envy and wish they could have a name change to Manchester Hunters etc. God its is just so ridiculous how can anyone be happy about this.

Not only did he save us, not only did he reduce the chance of us suffering another drop down the leagues, with his own money, he cleared out all the deadwood and crap from the club both personnel wise and infrastructure wise, he brought in a proper decent manager, funded some good players and saw us promoted again way quicker than the majority of us imagined.

I know he did all this and I know I should be happy about it but I just can't be because he seems like he is intent on destroying what he has created just with his own ego. I just keep shaking my head in disbelief at anyone who thinks this whole Tigers idea is a good one.

This reminds me of a small child who has just been given a really expensive Christmas present but for some reason is moaning about the fact the wrapping paper is the wrong colour.


And on a more generic note, I love the way people say "I will always be grateful to Mr. Allam" just before they show how little gratitude they have at all.

 

[Isa Kite]

For those who claim not to care about the name change, why are so many so upset that some of us do. If you truly do not mind, you will be just as happy if the name changes or if it remains as it has always been. So why are these posters getting so hot under the collar? If you don't care, pass by on the other side, don't get involved.

The only real argument is between those of us who are opposed to the changes proposed, and those who think that "Hull Tigers" is an improvement. Judging from the various threads on this subject, it would appear that of those making any input, this last group is by far the smallest, with a larger percentage not caring, and a majority opposed.

None of this says anything about the desire for the team's success, or continuing support (with one or two exceptions), or appreciation of AA's actions in saving the club. It's just about the name.

 

[originallambrettaman]

There will be a war between City fans and it will happen when the the more vociferous minority find they haven't the support they thought they had and start abusing those who are of a different opinion to them. It's already started with certain nobeds on here labelling those that disagree with them "plastics" or "glory hunters" or "poodles" just as your mate Skelton is starting to distort the truth on twitter now.

Rick was a little late to the party, as I don't think he believed it was actually happening until yesterday, he's just catching up.

The same is true of several posters on several other boards. As you're probably already aware, several posters on CI were of the opinion that Assem would not be daft enough to actually try and change the name to Hull Tigers, since yesterday, there isn't a single poster on CI who isn't now deeply concerned about what's going on. I'm not an Amber Nectar poster, but I assume it's the same on there.

I've seen one bloke on Facebook saying we should let the Allam's do anything they like, as they saved the club, there's also still a few on here, but they're turning into lone voices.

 

[StrovolosTiger]

Rick was a little late to the party, as I don't think he believed it was actually happening until yesterday, he's just catching up.

The same is true of several posters on several other boards. As you're probably already aware, several posters on CI were of the opinion that Assem would not be daft enough to actually try and change the name to Hull Tigers, since yesterday, there isn't a single poster on CI who isn't now deeply concerned about what's going on. I'm not an Amber Nectar poster, but I assume it's the same on there.

I've seen one bloke on Facebook saying we should let the Allam's do anything they like, as they saved the club, there's also still a few on here, but they're turning into lone voices.

This, like most things in life, is not Black and White. For me, there are a lot of things that I would be at the front of the queue to protest about, and while I am not saying it won't come to that, right now this is simply not an issue important enough for me to join in.

If Assem Allam had just drifted in with little investment, I too would also be protesting because, just as you have rightly observed, there are a lot of people who don't like the name change but will not complain because of what the man has done for us, and I count myself in that group. You have been careful not to disrespect those who are of a similar opinion to me and I hope that continues, but I will challenge those to seek to distort the gravity of the situation by claiming that what Dr. Allam is doing is tantamount to destroying the club just to advance their own side of the argument.

As I say, I may well join the protestations if what the owner seeks to do becomes what I believe to be extreme, for example as with what happened at Wimbledon or Coventry. But right now, whilst I will not support what he has done, I will not protest against it, and I think there are quite a few who share this standpoint.

 

[TheCasual]

I read this analogy on here, can't remember who posted it. But it somes it up for me.

Paraphrasing it- 'Just because you saved someone from drowning doesn't mean you have the right to kick the **** out of them'

I'm hugely greatful to the Alams for saving the club, but it still doesn't give the right to do what they want.

Another thing is Allams haven't put a penny into the club, its a loan there charging interest on.

 

[StrovolosTiger]

I read this analogy on here, can't remember who posted it. But it somes it up for me.

Paraphrasing it- 'Just because you saved someone from drowning doesn't mean you have the right to kick the **** out of them'

I'm hugely greatful to the Alams for saving the club, but it still doesn't give the right to do what they want.

Another thing is Allams haven't put a penny into the club, its a loan there charging interest on.

Brilliant!

 

[originallambrettaman]

If you're a tweeter, check out @Marcotti, he writes for The Times, Corriere dello Sport, ESPN, Wall Street Journal, Sunday Herald and La Stampa. He's making some interesting points about MLS teams re-branding the other way, to sound more like traditional football clubs.

Gabriele Marcotti ‏@Marcotti
So Hull City want to become Hull Tigers. Dallas Burn became FC Dallas. Kansas City Wiz became Sporting Kansas City. Hmm....

 

[StrovolosTiger]

If you're a tweeter, check out @Marcotti, he writes for The Times, Corriere dello Sport, ESPN, Wall Street Journal, Sunday Herald and La Stampa. He's making some interesting points about MLS teams re-branding the other way, to sound more like traditional football clubs.

Gabriele Marcotti ‏@Marcotti
So Hull City want to become Hull Tigers. Dallas Burn became FC Dallas. Kansas City Wiz became Sporting Kansas City. Hmm....

That annoys me as well; he says Hull City want to become Hull Tigers.........no they don't. Assem Allam wants to become Hull Tigers.

Be wary of the press, people, they don't give a shyte about the fans, they'd sell their own mothers into slavery for a story to sell.