Proper romanticist you aren't you - Phillips would get us up that table? Not sure what you're basing that on in any way - he's never managed anyone anywhere so not sure how you can talk so confidently!! Obviously Keane won't come back as Short ****ed him off big time. FWIW - I wouldn't want Phillips as a manager at the moment - The poisonous crowds would only turn on him if he didn't get things right - he may get 5 or 6 more games than others but if (probably when, let's be honest) it goes wrong he'll be hounded by the fans and probably end up hating SAFC
Bain is responsible as much as anyone for where we are, and to say he's not is a load of bollocks. He's the guy running the show every day. We could have stayed up last season under his control if he'd fired Moyes earlier. Under his remit M'Vila, a lad who we could have bought cheap, flew to England to show his committment to the club. This is the sort of player that Bain stated recently he wants at the club....we could have bought M'Vila and sold him for a nice chunk of change...sound financial investment right? The rest is history. The right way for Bain to have gone was to invest to keep us in the Premier League while cutting costs. The bulk of the money that clubs earn these days come from tv revenue. By not coming up with the investment in January to buy a striker....and even this summer was f*cking financial suicide. It's all right saying we will drop into the Championship, restructure and go straight back up in theory, but in reality it's a difficult task unless you invest. 10 players for 2.5 million your f*cking kidding me right? Yes he can tell everyone how much we are saving, but small consolation as we head towards Division One. All business decisions have to come with an element of common sense. Invest in players who will make you money (M'Vila) and cut costs in line with where you want your business to be. The money Mr Bain is in the Premier League remember? Cut the waste while you are still there, but you're not going to do it without players who can score goals....Mr Bain he normally wears a number nine shirt by the way.
You do realise it's Short that dictates spending not Bain? If you replace every Bain in your post with Short then you're bang on.
You're blaming him for Short's decisions here. You yanks will do out to protect a fellow yank. Admirable but in this case just looks plain sillly and can't see it washing with many. 1. Sacking Moyes would have required a financial package, he'd need Short's permission, but two things everybody already knows, Moyes was Short's choice and he'd already said he was putting no more money into the club so where does Bain pull the money from? His Arse? 2. We were Quoted 10m for M'Vila that Winter, money we clearly didn't have, again, Short's money, Shorts sets the budget, we're running in the red and he won't put any more money in, does bain pull it from his arse? 3. With what? His arsehole is printing money by now. 4. Again, short is putting no more money in and we run in the red, how does he raise that money when he's laying people off to meet a debt that could the club into administration. 5. We'd just been relegated, we run in the red, Short won't put more money in giving us severer restrictions and the deadline to honor our debts to the creditors is 6 months closer. Clearly you value a few extra player than our entire existance. Thank **** Bain is doing the day to day running and not you. He's got that money printer lodged in his arse after all. 6.Again, you're blaming him for Short's decisions. It was less than by the way, 4 of which could have demended our total transfer spend on their own fee. He worked mirricle this Summer with that Yank **** leaving us high and dry. The one thing he can be blamed for is the trip to New York after laying people off. Stupid thing to do, but you don't even mention that. He's just a man in an admin role doing the bidding of his Chairman. I think your comments are unfair and way off the reality of the restriction our club is under. Not once have you acknowledged our financial might entirely depends on Short sinking more money in which he's refusing to do and not one have you acknowledged that he negotiates the deals but he doesn't pick the players.
1 Sorry to burst your bubble mate but I'm from Sunderland so I think the same about Short on here the same as everyone else. Steve Parish's choice for manager at Palace was DeBoer recently. He lasted three games. Yes, for Moyes to it would have taken a package but you base this on a 100 million for staying in the Premier League. 2 We were quoted 5 million that Summer. His contract was up in January but even if it was more it was a good deal for us financially. Did we have the money? Yes, so no need to pull from his arse. We just spent more on N'Dong. 3 I own and run a multi million dollar business here in LA. I'm up to date on most printers but you have obviously a lot more knowledge than me because at the moment I'm not aware of printing money from someones ass. Great concept though will give you that so I'm going back to night school to learn about this. 4 Short put in nearly 30 million if I can remember correctly when Bain came on board. 8 million of that was spent on Papy. 5 Printer up the ass reference again. Really need to get going with them classes. The Nags were relegated the previous season and went out and bought some quality...which I hate admit. Parachute payments to apply. The Nags straight back up in one. We on the other hand do not reinvest the 100 million from tv or the 45 million from the sales of PVA and Pickford. Bain is painted on here as a puppet which he certainly is not. Short is all about making money. He's put Bain in the position to make money. Can't see that happening at the moment. 6 Not quite sure what you are referring to here but at least wasn't the visual of the printer up the ass. Working a miracle maybe. Yep, left us without a striker again. Another f*cking miracle. I want Short like everyone else out the club. To say none of this is down to Bain where we are at the moment? Your f*cking kidding me right? It's a results orientated business. The fact is Bain's first season we are relegated. Even Byrne wasn't that bad. When Bain started he came in on the back of potentially one of the best squads we had had for years. All he needed to do was sign Yedlin and M'Vila on permanent deals. Keep Kaboul long enough till a suitable replacement was found and not that Papy sh*t. Selling Kaboul to Watford another relegation rival for just over two million ffs....yes great job Bain! Didn't want to mention the New York trip or the transparency of the new forward with trips to Nissan etc....the guy is a f*cking joke....along with Short.
But if Short says "you can't spend any money, and all of the income has to go on paying off the debts" what is Bain supposed to do?
You genuinely think our first 11 would ‘barely scrape mid table’ mate? I’m not having that like it’s the 4th best squad in the league IMO. Grayson has been a disaster, the jobs far, far to big for him. Sadly, As has been stated, it’s far to big for anyone Short will pay for. ‘Looks like he wants to’. I want to **** Margot Robbie doesn’t mean she’s hankering over my pipe. He is not good enough. Plain and simple.
I've tried to view Short positively based on his earlier investment and support for managers but his recent failures have outdone this as you have clearly described and SAFC have the short straw - Short needs to go asap but who replaces him : Fulwell '73 ???
If we've seen anything this season it's that the squad isn't as good as we thought, of course Grayson could be getting more out of them but the quality throughout the squad is pretty poor. We're probably the only team without a good keeper or a reliable goal scorer for example.
The quality isn’t poor in comparison to the league mate. We are short up front the rest of the squad is easily as good as any in the league. Grayson is clueless. It’s buolt up in me over the last few weeks and we are going from car crash to car crash. He is not good enough. The calibrate of player has dropped, but remembering we are no longer a PL club, it’s not dropped as far as the league position.
I think we are lacking players with a championship mindset and attitude as well as a reliable keeper and clinical goal scorers - hopefuly QPR will be on the receiving end of a rejuvenated Sunderland (like Brum at 'ull) -watmore can we do
I dunno, we were a total car crash last season and our quality has declined since then, selling a class keeper and forward hurt us. I think upper mid table is where we should be based on the quality of our best first team. I said somewhere else that our rivals are bedded in much more than we are, we're still gelling and will be for some time. We've had a **** start but I see signs we're starting to get somewhere.
Players who are up for the physical football of the championship - we have too many injury prone unfocussed negative players who are are not up for the fight. We need more of our enthusiastic youngsters with a positive mindset - (eg Embleton, Greenwood ) at least on the bench.
