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red&white wanderer said:
:emoticon-0148-yes: I know we're in a right mess but one player (whoever) will start the recovery with a goal or/and bring a new dimension to our game -Watmore can I say. But I'm not daft it could just as easy be a disaster -I'm trying to see our dire needs in a positive way - it also makes me feel better..... :emoticon-0112-wonde thankfully we have a match day stress break but still :emoticon-0107-sweat
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Watmore looked back to his normal play
Remember he wasn’t a world beater before his injury.
He is a direct player and that is what we are after at this stage
 
When he plays for your team its direct in another team its headless chicken,he needs to get his head up a lot more.
 
Vincemac said:
Watmore looked back to his normal play
Remember he wasn’t a world beater before his injury.
He is a direct player and that is what we are after at this stage
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In total agreement and I believe he could well become a big influential player (ie goalscorer ) for someone as if he kicks on here I think he'll be sold - a real talent imo with a solid outlook off the pitch .
 
LAMackem said:
Bain is responsible as much as anyone for where we are, and to say he's not is a load of bollocks. He's the guy running the show every day. We could have stayed up last season under his control if he'd fired Moyes earlier. Under his remit M'Vila, a lad who we could have bought cheap, flew to England to show his committment to the club. This is the sort of player that Bain stated recently he wants at the club....we could have bought M'Vila and sold him for a nice chunk of change...sound financial investment right? The rest is history. The right way for Bain to have gone was to invest to keep us in the Premier League while cutting costs. The bulk of the money that clubs earn these days come from tv revenue. By not coming up with the investment in January to buy a striker....and even this summer was f*cking financial suicide. It's all right saying we will drop into the Championship, restructure and go straight back up in theory, but in reality it's a difficult task unless you invest. 10 players for 2.5 million your f*cking kidding me right? Yes he can tell everyone how much we are saving, but small consolation as we head towards Division One. All business decisions have to come with an element of common sense. Invest in players who will make you money (M'Vila) and cut costs in line with where you want your business to be. The money Mr Bain is in the Premier League remember? Cut the waste while you are still there, but you're not going to do it without players who can score goals....Mr Bain he normally wears a number nine shirt by the way.
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LAMackem said:
1 Sorry to burst your bubble mate but I'm from Sunderland so I think the same about Short on here the same as everyone else. Steve Parish's choice for manager at Palace was DeBoer recently. He lasted three games. Yes, for Moyes to it would have taken a package but you base this on a 100 million for staying in the Premier League.

2 We were quoted 5 million that Summer. His contract was up in January but even if it was more it was a good deal for us financially. Did we have the money? Yes, so no need to pull from his arse. We just spent more on N'Dong.

3 I own and run a multi million dollar business here in LA. I'm up to date on most printers but you have obviously a lot more knowledge than me because at the moment I'm not aware of printing money from someones ass. Great concept though will give you that so I'm going back to night school to learn about this.

4 Short put in nearly 30 million if I can remember correctly when Bain came on board. 8 million of that was spent on Papy.

5 Printer up the ass reference again. Really need to get going with them classes. The Nags were relegated the previous season and went out and bought some quality...which I hate admit. Parachute payments to apply. The Nags straight back up in one. We on the other hand do not reinvest the 100 million from tv or the 45 million from the sales of PVA and Pickford. Bain is painted on here as a puppet which he certainly is not. Short is all about making money. He's put Bain in the position to make money. Can't see that happening at the moment.

6 Not quite sure what you are referring to here but at least wasn't the visual of the printer up the ass. Working a miracle maybe. Yep, left us without a striker again. Another f*cking miracle.

I want Short like everyone else out the club. To say none of this is down to Bain where we are at the moment? Your f*cking kidding me right? It's a results orientated business. The fact is Bain's first season we are relegated. Even Byrne wasn't that bad.

When Bain started he came in on the back of potentially one of the best squads we had had for years. All he needed to do was sign Yedlin and M'Vila on permanent deals. Keep Kaboul long enough till a suitable replacement was found and not that Papy sh*t. Selling Kaboul to Watford another relegation rival for just over two million ffs....yes great job Bain!

Didn't want to mention the New York trip or the transparency of the new forward with trips to Nissan etc....the guy is a f*cking joke....along with Short.
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I think you are somewhat confused as to what Martin Bain's role is at the club.

'The right way for Bain to have gone would have been to invest to keep us up' That is the role of Ellis Short. Ellis Short invests, not Martin Bain.

'By not coming up with the investment in January to buy a striker....and even this summer was f*cking financial suicide' . Again that is Ellis Short, not Martin Bain.

'10 players for 2.5 million your f*cking kidding me right? Yes he can tell everyone how much we are saving, but small consolation as we head towards Division One' .... Again Ellis Short only allowed that much to be spent. Not Martin Bain.

'Short put in nearly 30 million if I can remember correctly when Bain came on board. 8 million of that was spent on Papy' .. Martin Bain IS NOT a director of football. The manager selects the players, not Bain. He just makes sure the manager works within the budget that Ellis Short set.

'The fact is Bain's first season we are relegated. Even Byrne wasn't that bad' .. Wow! He's not as bad as somebody who covered up child abuse? Somebody who ****ed up the Alvarez contract? Byrnes decisions along with years of decline and David Moyes **** management led to that relegation.
 
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Safc83 said:
I think you are somewhat confused as to what Martin Bain's role is at the club.

'The right way for Bain to have gone would have been to invest to keep us up' That is the role of Ellis Short. Ellis Short invests, not Martin Bain.

'By not coming up with the investment in January to buy a striker....and even this summer was f*cking financial suicide' . Again that is Ellis Short, not Martin Bain.

'10 players for 2.5 million your f*cking kidding me right? Yes he can tell everyone how much we are saving, but small consolation as we head towards Division One' .... Again Ellis Short only allowed that much to be spent. Not Martin Bain.

'Short put in nearly 30 million if I can remember correctly when Bain came on board. 8 million of that was spent on Papy' .. Martin Bain IS NOT a director of football. The manager selects the players, not Bain. He just makes sure the manager works within the budget that Ellis Short set.

'The fact is Bain's first season we are relegated. Even Byrne wasn't that bad' .. Wow! He's not as bad as somebody who covered up child abuse? Somebody who ****ed up the Alvarez contract? Byrnes decisions along with years of decline and David Moyes **** management led to that relegation.
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Your right there mate Ellis Short is the man who carries the blame
 
Also Byrne was responsible for Defoe having a clause in his contract to leave for free and NOT putting a clause in Rodwells contract for a pay cut after relegation. Unless i'm mistaken?
 
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