It takes a real ****er of a player to refuse to play because of the manager...
Like half the Liverpool side when they revolted against hodgson?
It takes a real ****er of a player to refuse to play because of the manager...
it's what chelsea have bred since the money rolled in.It takes a real ****er of a player to refuse to play because of the manager...

give me lots of money to spend and i could give it a good fecking goYou could say that but when does it become bad management? So presumably Jose is still great cause he got the Chelsea lads to win the league until the players downed tools?![]()


Never happened. It was a fan revolt if anything. As I recall Carragher was interviewed after Roy was sacked and said he thought exactly the same of RH before he came, while he was there and after he left.Like half the Liverpool side when they revolted against hodgson?
who?Like half the Liverpool side when they revolted against hodgson?

that's a fair enough argument bobby.Just saying the logic is players down tools and get bad results. Hodgson had you in relegation form until you got Kenny and magically everyone plays better and you reach 2 finals.
Sometimes managers are good or bad rather than the players attitudes
Like half the Liverpool side when they revolted against hodgson?
Fair point except with us and Hodgson the players didn't down tools. This was his first team selection game one: Cavalieri; Kelly, Skrtel, Kyrgiakos, Agger; Aquilani, Lucas, Spearing; Amoo, N’Gog, Jovanović. It had - I don't know what I'm doing - written all over it and things never looked up from day 1. Which of these players btw do you think downed tools?Just saying the logic is players down tools and get bad results. Hodgson had you in relegation form until you got Kenny and magically everyone plays better and you reach 2 finals.
Sometimes managers are good or bad rather than the players attitudes
it had i'm in a relegation fight written all over it, so why the **** did he become our manager ffs.Fair point except with us and Hodgson the players didn't down tools. This was his first team selection game one: Cavalieri; Kelly, Skrtel, Kyrgiakos, Agger; Aquilani, Lucas, Spearing; Amoo, N’Gog, Jovanović. It had - I don't know what I'm doing - written all over it and things never looked up from day 1.

It wasn't his fault so much as the owners for appointing him. He'd never managed a 'big' team before and was completely out of his depth. Why that was obvious to everyone except the owners is a mystery.it had i'm in a relegation fight written all over it, so why the **** did he become our manager ffs.
what was his forte again? oh yeah keep teams up ffs!!!!![]()
that's fair enough jb, but was his fault, was telling us we should be grateful to get a point at home to ****e , and drinking with the **** down the road.It wasn't his fault so much as the owners for appointing him. He'd never managed a 'big' team before and was completely out of his depth. Why that was obvious to everyone except the owners is a mystery.
Wouldn't say he was **** domestically. Last year yes .He won it in his first full year and he got them cl after taking over from Rafa's **** show in the first season
who did he follow again?Rafa managed to trash Inter and Real. Is he the man for United now?
Easier if the players play for you though
Like half the Liverpool side when they revolted against hodgson?
don't read what the facts actually was regarding that scenario then?Yeah, Klopp just throws Shaquille under the bus, but he is so short it went over him okay

Yeah, Klopp just throws Shaquille under the bus, but he is so short it went over him okay
don't read what the facts actually was regarding that scenario then?
sure you don't support utd![]()