Off Topic General Election Special

[Amin Arrears]

Who ****ing cares about what the UK pays to Brussels and who gets what! This is part of how the media have succeeded in manipulating the average people into thinking it’s a good idea!

The only thing that matters to us is how it’s changed our finances. Our currency is now worth 20% less. We import almost everything, it costs 20% more. Prices are rising and our wages are worth 20% less!

Unless some of you are secret multi millionaires with hidden bank accounts in your dogs name in the Cayman Islands, I fail to see the relevance of the headline figures to us. So the government might save a few quid, are they going to subsidise our salaries by the amount they have devalued? NO!

 

[Mr Hatem]

-THE LAST CHANCE TO SAVE BREXIT AND BRITAIN (Daily Express).
I don't care if Brexit does one, but Britain doing one... Boris is the only one who can save Britain!
People on here seem to be lapping up this crap.
Mr Hatem says...
Vote tactically to keep Buffoon Boris out.

 

[originallambrettaman]

We put in £13 billion a year and get £4 billion back in real terms.We can negotiate a tariff free market within Europe for zilch,why would Europe not trade with us? Why pay £13 billion a year to prop up countries,Poland for example,because they can't manage their own economy?

Only if you ignore the EU investment that comes to developers, or research grants and all the other other things the EU invests in without going through the government - 'The UK’s annual five-year average (2014 to 2018) net contribution on this wider basis was £7.8 billion; lower than the £9.8 billion ONS estimate of the annual five-year average which only captures official transactions between the EU and the UK government'.

And it's not even that much, as outside the EU, we'll have massively increased costs in doing our own medicine testing and product testing, costs that are currently split across all member states.

For what we get for it, EU membership is cheap, as I said, we spend double that on overseas aid, for which we get pretty much nothing but a warm glow.

 

[balkan tiger]

-THE LAST CHANCE TO SAVE BREXIT AND BRITAIN (Daily Express).
I don't care if Brexit does one, but Britain doing one... Boris is the only one who can save Britain!
People on here seem to be lapping up this crap.
Mr Hatem says...
Vote tactically to keep Buffoon Boris out.

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But they are all Baboons

 

[Mr Hatem]

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But they are Baboons

Racist

 

[DMD]

A few questions for those that have taken the time to study the costings in the manifestos in detail.

Do any of them show how they will fund the cost of carrying out the measures associated with going Carbon Neutral, which I believe the Treasury estimates at over a trillion pounds?

Also, have any of them suggested how they will make up the tax short fall that will come if/when electric vehicles replace the internal combustion engine?

Have any of them included their costings for the change from natural gas to hydrogen for cooking and heating?

 

[Mr Hatem]

A few questions for those that have taken the time to study the costings in the manifestos in detail.

Do any of them show how they will fund the cost of carrying out the measures associated with going Carbon Neutral, which I believe the Treasury estimates at over a trillion pounds?

Also, have any of them suggested how they will make up the tax short fall that will come if/when electric vehicles replace the internal combustion engine?

Have any of them included their costings for the change from natural gas to hydrogen for cooking and heating?

Yes, the total cost will be 50p. Happy to help.

 

[balkan tiger]

A few questions for those that have taken the time to study the costings in the manifestos in detail.

Do any of them show how they will fund the cost of carrying out the measures associated with going Carbon Neutral, which I believe the Treasury estimates at over a trillion pounds?

Also, have any of them suggested how they will make up the tax short fall that will come if/when electric vehicles replace the internal combustion engine?

Have any of them included their costings for the change from natural gas to hydrogen for cooking and heating?

Greta welcome aboard.

 

[Ron Burguvdy]

A few questions for those that have taken the time to study the costings in the manifestos in detail.

Do any of them show how they will fund the cost of carrying out the measures associated with going Carbon Neutral, which I believe the Treasury estimates at over a trillion pounds?

Also, have any of them suggested how they will make up the tax short fall that will come if/when electric vehicles replace the internal combustion engine?

Have any of them included their costings for the change from natural gas to hydrogen for cooking and heating?

Sadly the car thing is so far off it may end up academic / crisis intervention

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50713616

 

[DMD]

Greta welcome aboard.

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[Barchullona]

A few questions for those that have taken the time to study the costings in the manifestos in detail.

Do any of them show how they will fund the cost of carrying out the measures associated with going Carbon Neutral, which I believe the Treasury estimates at over a trillion pounds?

Also, have any of them suggested how they will make up the tax short fall that will come if/when electric vehicles replace the internal combustion engine?

Have any of them included their costings for the change from natural gas to hydrogen for cooking and heating?

I would hazard a guess that the answer will be no.

 

[Barchullona]

Yes, the total cost will be 50p. Happy to help.

Thanks, Diane.

 

[balkan tiger]

How about Jo Swinson?

Just seen a headline saying she as been advised to wear lower cut tops.
Smoked loads of dope.
And liberal





I know sexist pig, someone's daughter and all that

 

[brownbagtiger]

A few questions for those that have taken the time to study the costings in the manifestos in detail.

Do any of them show how they will fund the cost of carrying out the measures associated with going Carbon Neutral, which I believe the Treasury estimates at over a trillion pounds?

Also, have any of them suggested how they will make up the tax short fall that will come if/when electric vehicles replace the internal combustion engine?

Have any of them included their costings for the change from natural gas to hydrogen for cooking and heating?

all really good points and shows how single issue and short term thinking is driving this election.

We don’t have visionaries any more in the parties - those who have a clear idea of where the country should be heading and how to get there. Lloyd George, Churchill, Atlee, Thatcher, Blair. With all of them you knew what you were getting, like it or not.

those with good ideas (imho labour and greens) are hampered by leadership issues as they tend to be collaborative rather than individualistic, those with charismatic leaders (tories and brexit) imho have populist ideas that don’t stand up to even basic examinations, like nurse numbers.

 

[Wilf Taylor]

I’m 64 and have voted Labour since I first voted in 1973. I will not however, vote for this Labour Party. A party being dragged down by Momentum and its ideologists. A party led by racists, neo marxists, a party led by people who don’t condemn terrorism, and wouldn’t defend our country. A party so desperate for power it promises anything and everything to get a vote. A party that said it would honour the referendum and has done everything it can to prevent it since. Led by a man who was once a euro sceptic who now tells us has no opinion on Brexit A party when in opposition offered to ‘overthrow’ the elected government by trying to get Parliament to take over the governance of the country and then had the audacity to accuse the elected government of trying to perform a coup. A ‘party of the people’ full of champagne socialists who thought East Germany had the ideal socio/economic system. I could go on forever, **** ‘EM!

 

[Amin Arrears]

all really good points and shows how single issue and short term thinking is driving this election.

We don’t have visionaries any more in the parties - those who have a clear idea of where the country should be heading and how to get there. Lloyd George, Churchill, Atlee, Thatcher, Blair. With all of them you knew what you were getting, like it or not.

those with good ideas (imho labour and greens) are hampered by leadership issues as they tend to be collaborative rather than individualistic, those with charismatic leaders (tories and brexit) imho have populist ideas that don’t stand up to even basic examinations, like nurse numbers.

Why are people going on about this nurses ****e? The facts are simple, there are 280,000 nurses, there are going to be 330,000 nurses, wherever they come from. That’s 50,000 more. The fact checking service on twitter debunked this straight away, how did it gain legs?

 

[Barchullona]

I’m 64 and have voted Labour since I first voted in 1973. I will not however, vote for this Labour Party. A party being dragged down by Momentum and its ideologists. A party led by racists, neo marxists, a party led by people who don’t condemn terrorism, and wouldn’t defend our country. A party so desperate for power it promises anything and everything to get a vote. A party that said it would honour the referendum and has done everything it can to prevent it since. Led by a man who was once a euro sceptic who now tells us has no opinion on Brexit A party when in opposition offered to ‘overthrow’ the elected government by trying to get Parliament to take over the governance of the country and then had the audacity to accuse the elected government of trying to perform a coup. A ‘party of the people’ full of champagne socialists who thought East Germany had the ideal socio/economic system. I could go on forever, **** ‘EM!

Someone will be along to tell you how you have been brainwashed by the MSM and if only you read the right people, like they do, you would see the light. And everything you say is wrong, you have been swayed by misinformation, smears and lies. Corbyn is a jolly nice chap,as is McDonnell, Abbott is a genius and to say otherwise is racist, misogynistic and jolly unpleasant.

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

Was very well known and publicised, but probably lost in the main stream media noise and clamour for creating division.

It was a truth. Not many of those mentioned at the time.

 

[Amin Arrears]

I’m 64 and have voted Labour since I first voted in 1973. I will not however, vote for this Labour Party. A party being dragged down by Momentum and its ideologists. A party led by racists, neo marxists, a party led by people who don’t condemn terrorism, and wouldn’t defend our country. A party so desperate for power it promises anything and everything to get a vote. A party that said it would honour the referendum and has done everything it can to prevent it since. Led by a man who was once a euro sceptic who now tells us has no opinion on Brexit A party when in opposition offered to ‘overthrow’ the elected government by trying to get Parliament to take over the governance of the country and then had the audacity to accuse the elected government of trying to perform a coup. A ‘party of the people’ full of champagne socialists who thought East Germany had the ideal socio/economic system. I could go on forever, **** ‘EM!

You know you’re not far wrong when even Margaret Beckett is equally as scathing about the current Labour Party on her own website.

 

[Barchullona]

Why are people going on about this nurses ****e? The facts are simple, there are 280,000 nurses, there are going to be 330,000 nurses, wherever they come from. That’s 50,000 more. The fact checking service on twitter debunked this straight away, how did it gain legs?

Don’t think that is the case. There will be 32,000 more nurses and 18,000 more who were anticipated to leave would remain due to improvements to their pay and conditions which would mean there would be 50,000 more than otherwise but only 32,000 more new ones. So the nice Labour spokesman on TV said anyway.