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Sir Cheshire Ben said:
She Cambridge educated. How about you? Are you as critical of other politicians who are far worse with their figures? Why woman of colour Dianne Abbott & not white privileged Phil Hammond for example?
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Boris Johnson went to Eton, you wouldn't think so when you see him speak in public.

Education it seems is not a good measure of a politicians worth.
 
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Chazz Rheinhold said:
It’s not going well is it! I blame the idiot that started the thread.
Hopefully by tomorrow it’ll have calmed down , eternal optimist??? and we can have a reasoned debate.
truly goes to show when this board started the idea or decision to have no politics or religion was an excellent one.
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It's like one of those seven way leader debates x 10.

Hard to keep up and maintain stuff I'm doing/ needs to be done


- apologies if I've missed any replies.
 
Sir Cheshire Ben said:
She Cambridge educated. How about you? Are you as critical of other politicians who are far worse with their figures? Why woman of colour Dianne Abbott & not white privileged Phil Hammond for example?
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She Cambridge educated. I take it you are not? When did Hammond make mistakes in the cost of employing people? Any video links to other politicians being worse at figures?
 
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Barchullona said:
She Cambridge educated. I take it you are not? When did Hammond make mistakes in the cost of employing people? Any video links to other politicians being worse at figures?
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There’s a whole host of them. They generally go unnoticed because they’re not picked up on by misogynistic racists.
 
balkan tiger said:
Boris Johnson went to Eton, you wouldn't think so when you see him speak in public.

Education it seems is not a good measure of a politicians worth.
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Wilson and Powell were the two politicians with the highest educational attainments. Major was probably the least.
 
Sir Cheshire Ben said:
There’s a whole host of them. They generally go unnoticed because they’re not picked up on by misogynistic racists.
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Should be easy to give a few examples if there so many of them then. Otherwise it could be thought you are giving knee jerk responses without any foundation.
 
DMD said:
To be fair, it's mainly you referencing her colour and gender, others just seem to be commenting on what they perceive as her competence.
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Deeply untrustworthy, just ask her colleagues and constituents.

"Diane Abbott has been accused of cowardice and asked to apologise by a fellow Labour MP after missing the historic article 50 vote on Wednesday evening.

Despite claims from the shadow home secretary’s office that she had fallen ill with a sudden migraine, John Mann claimed she “gave herself a sick note” rather than help to trigger Britain’s exit from the EU.

The absence of Abbott, a close ally of Jeremy Corbyn, meant she did not have to choose between leaving the shadow cabinet or disappointing a majority of voters in Hackney North and Stoke Newington who wish to remain in the EU.

She went home at around 5pm on Wednesday, two hours before the vote took place where Labour MPs had been ordered to vote for article 50 to be triggered.


Questions were raised about her absence after she had taken an active part in a debate in Westminster less than 90 minutes before she left the Commons.

Appearing on the BBC’s News channel, Mann, the MP for Bassetlaw, said her failure to vote was “quite extraordinary”.

“We have some very, very ill people who turned up to parliament to vote yesterday who are so sick they cannot carry on with their work as MPs. They voted and she gave herself a sick note at 5pm.

“We all know what is going on here. She bottled the vote. It is cowardice. You don’t abstain on the big votes. It is embarrassing to see that. She ought to give an apology to the Labour party for doing so. That is not leadership, that’s cowardice.

“Hiding away from big votes is not the way we should be doing things. And she should have been in with me and Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell in voting the Labour line. She wasn’t, and that’s not very clever,” he added.

Friends of Abbott said she developed a “really bad migraine” shortly before 5pm and went home soon afterwards. She informed close colleagues including those in Corbyn’s office about her illness before leaving, it is understood.

“She had worked a very busy schedule all day. She went home because she was not well and told everyone who needed to know before she did so,” one friend said.

Her spokesperson said Abbott would not wish to respond to Mann’s comments, adding that she planned to be back in the Commons on Monday.

Abbott, 63, a close ally of Corbyn, was seen having a drink with colleagues in the Red Lion pub next to the Houses of Parliament on Tuesday night."
 
City Man said:
Deeply untrustworthy, just ask her colleagues and constituents.

"Diane Abbott has been accused of cowardice and asked to apologise by a fellow Labour MP after missing the historic article 50 vote on Wednesday evening.

Despite claims from the shadow home secretary’s office that she had fallen ill with a sudden migraine, John Mann claimed she “gave herself a sick note” rather than help to trigger Britain’s exit from the EU.

The absence of Abbott, a close ally of Jeremy Corbyn, meant she did not have to choose between leaving the shadow cabinet or disappointing a majority of voters in Hackney North and Stoke Newington who wish to remain in the EU.

She went home at around 5pm on Wednesday, two hours before the vote took place where Labour MPs had been ordered to vote for article 50 to be triggered.


Questions were raised about her absence after she had taken an active part in a debate in Westminster less than 90 minutes before she left the Commons.

Appearing on the BBC’s News channel, Mann, the MP for Bassetlaw, said her failure to vote was “quite extraordinary”.

“We have some very, very ill people who turned up to parliament to vote yesterday who are so sick they cannot carry on with their work as MPs. They voted and she gave herself a sick note at 5pm.

“We all know what is going on here. She bottled the vote. It is cowardice. You don’t abstain on the big votes. It is embarrassing to see that. She ought to give an apology to the Labour party for doing so. That is not leadership, that’s cowardice.

“Hiding away from big votes is not the way we should be doing things. And she should have been in with me and Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell in voting the Labour line. She wasn’t, and that’s not very clever,” he added.

Friends of Abbott said she developed a “really bad migraine” shortly before 5pm and went home soon afterwards. She informed close colleagues including those in Corbyn’s office about her illness before leaving, it is understood.

“She had worked a very busy schedule all day. She went home because she was not well and told everyone who needed to know before she did so,” one friend said.

Her spokesperson said Abbott would not wish to respond to Mann’s comments, adding that she planned to be back in the Commons on Monday.

Abbott, 63, a close ally of Corbyn, was seen having a drink with colleagues in the Red Lion pub next to the Houses of Parliament on Tuesday night."
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How racist of him to criticise Saint Diane.
 
Duffens_Briefs said:
Correction not FAKE news

 We will get rid of the Fixed Term Parliaments Act – it has led to paralysis at a time the country needed decisive action.
 We will ensure we have updated and equal Parliamentary boundaries, making sure that every vote counts the same – a cornerstone of democracy.
 We will continue to support the First Past the Post system of voting, as it allows voters to kick out politicians who don’t deliver, both locally and nationally.
 We will protect the integrity of our democracy, by introducing identification to vote at polling stations, stopping postal vote harvesting and measures to prevent any foreign interference in elections
We will make it easier for British expats to vote in Parliamentary elections, and get rid of the arbitrary 15-year limit on their voting rights.
 We will maintain the voting age at 18 – the age at which one gains full citizenship rights.
 We will ensure that no one is put off from engaging in politics or standing in an election by threats, harassment or abuse, whether in person or online.
 We will champion freedom of expression and tolerance, both in the UK and overseas.
 To support free speech, we will repeal section 40 of the Crime and Courts Act 2014, which seeks to coerce the press. We will not proceed with the second stage of the Leveson Inquiry.
 We will ensure redundancy payments can be clawed back when high-paid public servants move between jobs.
 We will improve the use of data, data science and evidence in the process of government.

I don't see a problem with Page 48...Whats the beef?
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That’s only half the page?
 
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