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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Dec 8, 2019.

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  1. City Man

    City Man Well-Known Member

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    I know - just pointing out this bizarre dichotomy.
     
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  2. DMD

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    The vociferous ones tend to be entrenched, and those trying to gather information to form their own view tend to look in and give it a swerve. I don't think there's much gained, and it tends to spill over on to other threads.

    If nothing else, it's useful for demonstrating why the rule exists.
     
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  3. Barchullona

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    So you didn’t read that statement? Miss an awful lot, don’t you? Yes the Tories suspend people for untoward remarks. Labour reinstates them. Still a lot of outstanding ones they haven’t investigated yet.
     
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  4. Baldrick's Cunning Plan

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    Because she's crap at maths and talks a load of bollocks.
     
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  5. balkan tiger

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    It's complicated, very very complicated. Think I will go with Kempton. They're all a bunch of lying ****s.
     
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  6. Barchullona

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    It is like TV debates. People start with a view and merely have it reinforced. No one’s opinion is changed. At the end of the day things remain the same. Basically the situation is - myself and others with the same opinion are correct and those with a different opinion are wrong.<laugh>
     
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  7. The B&S Fanclub

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    Page 48 = Fake news.

    I can't imagine the writers ever using the word: rid.
     
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  8. DMD

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    Which bit?

     We will get rid of the Fixed Term Parliaments Act – it has led to paralysis at a time the country needed decisive action.  We will ensure we have updated and equal Parliamentary boundaries, making sure that every vote counts the same – a cornerstone of democracy.  We will continue to support the First Past the Post system of voting, as it allows voters to kick out politicians who don’t deliver, both locally and nationally.  We will protect the integrity of our democracy, by introducing identification to vote at polling stations, stopping postal vote harvesting and measures to prevent any foreign interference in elections.

     We will make it easier for British expats to vote in Parliamentary elections, and get rid of the arbitrary 15-year limit on their voting rights.  We will maintain the voting age at 18 – the age at which one gains full citizenship rights.  We will ensure that no one is put off from engaging in politics or standing in an election by threats, harassment or abuse, whether in person or online.  We will champion freedom of expression and tolerance, both in the UK and overseas.  To support free speech, we will repeal section 40 of the Crime and Courts Act 2014, which seeks to coerce the press. We will not proceed with the second stage of the Leveson Inquiry.  We will ensure redundancy payments can be clawed back when high-paid public servants move between jobs.  We will improve the use of data, data science and evidence in the process of government

    Once we get Brexit done, Britain will take back control of its laws. As we end the supremacy of European law, we will be free to craft legislation and regulations that maintain high standards but which work best for the UK. We want a balance of rights, rules and entitlements that benefits all the people and all the parts of our United Kingdom. After Brexit we also need to look at the broader aspects of our constitution: the relationship between the Government, Parliament and the courts; the functioning of the Royal Prerogative; the role of the House of Lords; and access to justice for ordinary people. The ability of our security services to defend us against terrorism and organised crime is critical. We will update the Human Rights Act and administrative law to ensure that there is a proper balance between the rights of individuals, our vital national security and effective government. We will ensure that judicial review is available to protect the rights of the individuals against an overbearing state, while ensuring that it is not abused to conduct politics by another means or to create needless delays. In our first year we will set up a Constitution, Democracy & Rights Commission that will examine these issues in depth, and come up with proposals to restore trust in our institutions and in how our democracy operates.
     
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  9. Barchullona

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    Yes but it makes a change when there isn’t much to discuss City wise. Though candw,Subcomondante Marcos and EssexGull’s input would be good. Or maybe we already have some of it?
     
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  10. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    130 ongoing: 130 too many but is that a lot? A Membership of over 600k. It’s lower now than before JC came in & there’s now a system in place to combat all cases unlike the other Parties.
     
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  11. Steven Toast

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    Shame that bit is a load of old bollocks. Oh, and look, they're not proceeding with the Leveson inquiry. You know, the one investigating how the press obtain information.

    Oh, and updating the human rights act? No thanks, it doesn't need updating.
     
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  12. Baldrick's Cunning Plan

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  13. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    She Cambridge educated. How about you? Are you as critical of other politicians who are far worse with their figures? Why woman of colour Dianne Abbott & not white privileged Phil Hammond for example?
     
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    Correction not FAKE news

     We will get rid of the Fixed Term Parliaments Act – it has led to paralysis at a time the country needed decisive action.
     We will ensure we have updated and equal Parliamentary boundaries, making sure that every vote counts the same – a cornerstone of democracy.
     We will continue to support the First Past the Post system of voting, as it allows voters to kick out politicians who don’t deliver, both locally and nationally.
     We will protect the integrity of our democracy, by introducing identification to vote at polling stations, stopping postal vote harvesting and measures to prevent any foreign interference in elections
    We will make it easier for British expats to vote in Parliamentary elections, and get rid of the arbitrary 15-year limit on their voting rights.
     We will maintain the voting age at 18 – the age at which one gains full citizenship rights.
     We will ensure that no one is put off from engaging in politics or standing in an election by threats, harassment or abuse, whether in person or online.
     We will champion freedom of expression and tolerance, both in the UK and overseas.
     To support free speech, we will repeal section 40 of the Crime and Courts Act 2014, which seeks to coerce the press. We will not proceed with the second stage of the Leveson Inquiry.
     We will ensure redundancy payments can be clawed back when high-paid public servants move between jobs.
     We will improve the use of data, data science and evidence in the process of government.

    I don't see a problem with Page 48...Whats the beef?
     
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  15. DMD

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    Do Johnson and Corbyn get grief?
     
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  16. Barchullona

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    Maybe he referred to 48 because 1948 was the year the NHS was founded and the pension system set up which gives the worst pensions of any industrialised country. Or maybe because it was the year George Orwell wrote 1984.
     
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  17. Sir Cheshire Ben

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    Not to the vile extent that she does.
     
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  18. City Man

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    Who is Dianne Abbott?
     
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  19. DMD

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    In your opinion.

    The fact remains that they , and many other public figures do get a lot of grief in the media, and they don't all meet the criteria you apply to her.
     
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  20. Baldrick's Cunning Plan

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    Apart from that, where do you think he went wrong?
     
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