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Carmine Galante. said:
He's a muppet, that's what he is.

He's anti establishment yet suddenly proclaims to be pro police and security services, which is nonsense.

His half wit mate McDonnell wants MI5 and the branch of armed police to be disbanded. That's hasn't been mentioned of late though, wonder why?

It's all lies, lies and more lies to try and reel in the gullible, they'd soon change their tune once they got in.

Corbyn has voted against new, stricter anti terror legislation 58 times.

He's not the messiah or the saviour of this nation.

He's a dangerous activist who doesn't live in the real world.

FACT.
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He who has the youth has the future. Today we will see whether Corbyn inspires enough young people to vote.

Corbyn is not going to change his tune if he gets elected. he'll employ more police officers as he said he would do. He'll stop arms sales to Saudi Arabia and abolish tuition fees. His programme is fairly moderate when you peel back all the propaganda from both sides. Not too dissimilar to Blair's in 1996.

Your right though he is a danger to the establishment, an establishment that has grown fat and bloated under Blair and the Tories. The ground is shaking just a little. Interesting times.
 
Young people - put your tamagotchis and Gameboys down and get out a vote.

End the scourge of hyper-individualism.
 
originallambrettaman said:
As that article points out, one of the biggest issues for the NHS is the £300b PFI debt, which is wasting billions in repayments.

I wonder who's responsible for that debt?
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Taxpayers fund the NHS entirely, so it depends where governments choose to put the money. It suits the current lot to line the pockets of their friends and peers. It's well documented that we spend less on our NHS than any health service of its kind across the world.
 
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Off The Line said:
Taxpayers fund the NHS entirely, so it depends where governments choose to put the money. It suits the current lot to line the pockets of their friends and peers. It's well documented that we spend less on our NHS than any health service of its kind across the world.
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Our health service is a liability. The UK is too saturated for it to be viable. It was great and affordable when it started, just look at the shear amount of funding it needs now to be practical. Even Labours funding pledge barely scratches the surface.
 
Carmine Galante. said:
Luxury?

Behave yourself and get in the real world.

State education was failing beyond belief my son, it's hardly a luxury to try and get him a decent education and start in life.

I'm not a communist and will do what's best for my kids, end of.

A luxury would be spending the school fees on a Range Rover and a couple of jaunts to the Caribbean every year.

Luxury?
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You can get a decent education at a state school. Many do. Private schools are better and are exclusive to only the very wealthy, but are in no way essential. No matter what they do, most people will never be able to afford it. I'd call that about as perfect an example of a luxury as you'll get.
 
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Off The Line said:
Taxpayers fund the NHS entirely, so it depends where governments choose to put the money. It suits the current lot to line the pockets of their friends and peers. It's well documented that we spend less on our NHS than any health service of its kind across the world.
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As you seem to have completely missed the point, it was Labour who got the NHS £300b in debt with private finance initiatives.

Your second comment is simply nonsense, health care spending per capita by country...

Australia 4420
Austria 5016
Belgium 4611
Canada 4608
Chile 1728
Czech Republic 2464
Denmark 4943
Estonia 1824
Finland 3984
France 4407
Germany 5267
Greece 2245
Hungary 1845
Iceland 4012
Ireland 5131
Israel 2533
Italy 3272
Japan 4150
Korea 2488
Latvia 1370
Luxembourg 7765
Mexico 1052
Netherlands 5343
New Zealand 3590
Norway 6567
Poland 1677
Portugal 2631
Slovak Republic 2064
Slovenia 2644
Spain 3153
Sweden 5228
Switzerland 6935
Turkey 1064
United Kingdom 4003
United States 9451
 
originallambrettaman said:
It's anything over £80k and to put two kids through public school already requires about £50k of earnings.
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You just pick a school with lower fees. When the Tories increased VAT to 15% under Thatcher and 20% under Cameron I had to readjust my spending. Same when they introduced VAT on gas and electricity.
 
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Party Hull! said:
Young people - put your tamagotchis and Gameboys down and get out a vote.

End the scourge of hyper-individualism.
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Frig me, you really are out of touch.

Fidget Spinners.

That's what the kids today are playing with.

Basically they're just spinning tops. Mental.
 
Hail the Leader of the Free World,....well OK, of Europe,......well, of the Realm now that the trifling appendage that is the EU has been cut off into oblivion. Along with our special close friend, the USA, and Donald's latest friend, and therefore surely ours too, the democracy that is Saudi Arabia, the world is now in safe hands like never before.


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DMD said:
If you look at the list of candidates for the General Election, there's a glaring omission. There's no General's standing.
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The first GE I remember was in 1945 and we had a Commander standing as the Labour candidate in East Hull.

Will always remember the little ditty which was sung at the time.


Vote,vote vote for Commander Pursey
You can't vote for a better man.
Commander Pursey is the one and we'll have him If we can
And we will throw old Churchill in the dock.

Pursey won in a landslide and East Hull has been Labour ever since.
 
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I think if we look at things logically most people who vote labour and most people who vote Tory are good, hard working people.

The 'elite' snobs who vote Tory, laughing on their boats are very few. As are the benefit hoarding, lazy **** stereotype of the left.

A vast, vast number of people who vote for both are english, middle of the road type people who just differ on the best way to have a decent country.

I accept that most labour voting people are honest, decent folk but I doubt it works the other way around. Surely labour voters can't think all the millions of normal people who vote tory are all massive rich ****s that despise everyone else?
 
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Obadiah said:
You just pick a school with lower fees. When the Tories increased VAT to 15% under Thatcher and 20% under Cameron I had to readjust my spending. Same when they introduced VAT on gas and electricity.
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You'll struggle to find a private school that costs less than basic £12kpa. Two kids means £24k, plus a few extras like school trip and you need at least £50k pa gross to cover it.
 
Walter Sobchak said:
I think if we look at things logically most people who vote labour and most people who vote Tory are good, hard working people.

The 'elite' snobs who vote Tory, laughing on their boats are very few. As are the benefit hoarding, lazy **** stereotype of the left.

A vast, vast number of people who vote for both are english, middle of the road type people who just differ on the best way to have a decent country.

I accept that most labour voting people are honest, decent folk but I doubt it works the other way around. Surely labour voters can't think all the millions of normal people who vote tory are all massive rich ****s that despise everyone else?
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I'm not a 'Labour voter', I vote as I see fit at the time, but I certainly don't view Tory voters in this way. In my experience, the wider trait that applies is 'my priority is for me and my family'.
 
PLT said:
You can get a decent education at a state school. Many do. Private schools are better and are exclusive to only the very wealthy, but are in no way essential. No matter what they do, most people will never be able to afford it. I'd call that about as perfect an example of a luxury as you'll get.
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You can get a decent education at state school, you can also a really ****e one.

For the umpteenth time I am not wealthy but what I have got I have earned through hard work.

I go without to send my kids private.
 
Carmine Galante. said:
You can get a decent education at state school, you can also a really ****e one.

For the umpteenth time I am not wealthy but what I have got I have earned through hard work.

I go without to send my kids private.
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Well if you can go without for your kids you can go without for everyone who's less fortunate.

You have money, I want it. You don't deserve it. I do.
 
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It isn't about the school its the pupil that matters! My daughter went to hessle and got A's then went to university! People make a big deal of something that isn't a big deal! In all walks of life from Stone Age to Now you'll have the haves & the haven'ts! Why are the royals held in such high regard by MOST of the population? People from lower, middle & higher class stand together clapping them at state ceremonies! The arguments of class only crops up during elections! Work hard and you'll get your rewards! [HASHTAG]#FACT[/HASHTAG]
 
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