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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Chazz Rheinhold, Jun 6, 2017.

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  1. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    If they're taking an income tax hit they're on about £100k a year and up. What they spend that on is absolutely up to them but there's no way they should be getting any subsidy on VAT while the junior doctor pays it on everything they can afford.
     
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  2. Carmine Galante.

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    In a nutshell.
     
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    So let's charge VAT on them, make them unaffordable for a lot of people currently using them, and probably put a bigger burden on state finances than the VAT raises?

    Every child in a private school is one less forthe taxpayer to pay for. People should be encouraged to use private schools whenever it's possible.
     
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  5. PLT

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    If they're unaffordable that's the schools' problem. They'll have to reduce their ridiculous prices if no one can afford it any more. That's how a proper economy should work; supply and demand. Not just the state propping up all these wealthy institutions while the people can't afford to eat.
     
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    It's anything over £80k and to put two kids through public school already requires about £50k of earnings.
     
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  7. Amin Yapusi

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    Every study/research into tax shows that higher tax rates generally means reduced income. The labour manifesto has quite literally just taken the current tax figures, added the %age on top and completely omitted all of the many complex factors that need taking into account.
     
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    The state doesn't prop them up, the parents pay through the nose for them.

    Make it unviable for those parents and you just increase the cost of the state of funding them through state education.
     
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    Bit condescending but there you go.

    I already pay tax for an education system, one that I don't access whilst lessening the burden on the state.
     
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    I'd be quite happy for VAT to be removed for clothes by the way...
     
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    Leaving them with only £30k, which is more than the average annual salary. If they're too pricey that is not the state's problem.
     
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    The private school here charges less per term than the state school gets in public funding per pupil. Some are ridiculously excessive targeted at the top %. The vast majority are not. The state isn't propping them up. If people can't afford to eat they should have tried harder and done better. They're not mine, or yours, or anyone else's problem. They're their own problem.
     
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    Apologies if that's how it came across.
     
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    And neither are people who couldn't be arsed to learn, to work, to have a proper career and earn for themselves.
     
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    The last couple of pages show just how hard it is to balance the books. It looks so easy to raise taxes to get more income, but the knock on effect is harder to calculate.
     
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    It is if it's the state that made them too pricey ffs.

    And penalising people who are willing to pay for their kids education, just so you can give university students a free degree, simply isn't fair.
     
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    Well that's where we differ I guess. I don't believe the Channel 5 documentaries that want you to believe everyone poor is just sitting at home being lazy. I think that's a tiny minority. I think that NHS staff being overworked and underpaid is absolutely our problem and should be infinitely more important than worrying about whether the rich can afford private schooling.
     
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  20. Carmine Galante.

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    Luxury?

    Behave yourself and get in the real world.

    State education was failing beyond belief my son, it's hardly a luxury to try and get him a decent education and start in life.


    I'm not a communist and will do what's best for my kids, end of.

    A luxury would be spending the school fees on a Range Rover and a couple of jaunts to the Caribbean every year.

    Luxury?
     
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