Off Topic General Election Special

[Walter Sobchak]

you should always ask for a company receipt otherwise you are complicit

"There are no legal implications for either party to pay in cash for work, or offering a discount for paying in cash in order to avoid administration/banking charges.

However, this does not negate the trader’s obligations to declare the services and cash received to HMRC for TAX purposes. "

So I'd actually be commiting no crime.

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/experts/article-4404786/Is-illegal-pay-cash-hand-handyman.html

 

[bum_chinned_crab]

Link?

If a contractor asked for a cheque he'd get a cheque, a bank transfer he'd get a bank transfer.

Link to what?

And ok then, only one of you is committing fraud. My original point in which I vented at the people providing the service off the books remains 100% valid.

 

[Mr Hatem]

Did you miss that past tense element?

But please send away.

That magarine presentation was past tense, but I'm sure you still have a similar role.

 

[Walter Sobchak]

Link to what?

That someone knows the 'implications' by paying using a particular method.

 

[Stockholm Tiger]

£9 billion is chump change in Britain's economy, which is $2.849 trillion. Tax evasion and avoidance as it stands costs the treasury more than £100 billion. I think people should be more angry at that tbh.

I think you should be upset at both of them Spook.

I'm no longer a UK tax payer or resident so I'm more upset by the 1 billion SEK per year benefit fraud costs the Swedish state. That's roughly the same as the UK but we only have 10m people. Reported benefit fraud cases are up 71% year on year. Sweden developed as a very egalitarian state post the war but things are changing here.

 

[AlRawdah]

All this chat about benefits scroungers etc but one thing that never gets brought up is the cash in hand market. I've had a lot of work done on my house and the amount of people who turn up in flash as **** motors and live in amazing houses themselves who then offer an 'off the books' price. **** off, how does that work? Not only are you collectively ripping the country off of millions but why the **** should I pay tax and you don't?

It annoys me that nobody ever brings this one up and instead goes for an easier target.

People getting paid-in-kind for work they do at the weekend. Another massive tax fraud scandal.

 

[The greengrocer]

Oh so that kind of fraud is ok but benefit fraud is wrong?



Apply that system to me then and I promise to spend my untaxed salary in bars and restaurants.

I never said it was right! I'm just saying it gets paid in the end!

 

[bum_chinned_crab]

That someone knows the 'implications' by paying using a particular method.

We're providing links for everyday conversations and their meanings now are we?

And ok then, only one of you is committing fraud. My original point in which I vented at the people providing the service off the books remains 100% valid

 

[Carmine Galante.]

is it only in Hull that such work is referred to as s 'govvy'?

 

[bum_chinned_crab]

I never said it was right! I'm just saying it gets paid in the end!

So back to my whole point, it's wrong and why doesn't it get discussed?

 

[Charon]

J


Dont know what this is about and cant be arsed to look

But

Ben would never abuse the disabled

Infact in the real world he would help anyone
As everyone on this board would

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/feb/23/kevin-kilbane-west-ham-fans-disabled

he was doing this kind of stuff - he thinks its ok - I dont

 

[bum_chinned_crab]

That magarine presentation was past tense, but I'm sure you still have a similar role.

As I said, send me your cv.

 

[Amin Arrears]

The 'tax evasion' banner covers a lot of things though, much of that estimated £100b is just duty/VAT not paid on fake and smuggled alcohol and cigs.

Generally a market run, exploited by and aimed at the system cheating benefit scroungers.

They love red diesel too.

 

[Walter Sobchak]

We're providing links for everyday conversations and their meanings now are we?

And ok then, only one of you is committing fraud. My original point in which I vented at the people providing the service off the books remains 100% valid

Yeah I agree, contractors do rake it in. A lot of them then moan about the costs of employing people or being self-employed.

 

[Mr Hatem]

As I said, send me your cv.

Please confirm your e. mail address.

 

[FILEYseadog]

I will give you £120 for the bike Stockholm Tiger

 

[originallambrettaman]

Most people see the odd guvvy job, or cash in hand work as being fine, they don't see it as fraud.

Just as most people are happy to buy fake brands, illegal cigs, alcohol, dvd's and all sorts of other stuff.

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/feb/23/kevin-kilbane-west-ham-fans-disabled

he was doing this kind of stuff - he thinks its ok - I dont

Idiot.

Provide a link to where.

 

[bum_chinned_crab]

Please confirm your e. mail address.

Nope. DM it in text format.

 

[bum_chinned_crab]

Most people see the odd guvvy job, or cash in hand work as being fine, they don't see it as fraud.

Just as most people are happy to buy fake brands, illegal cigs, alcohol, dvd's and all sorts of other stuff.

And that's precisely my point - why is that viewed as ok but as soon as someone commits benefit fraud the lynchmob is rounded up? They're all as wrong as each other.

Do people really buy that stuff? I honestly never have, nor anything nicked.