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TopCat_ said:
Said this for years - Tories aren't normal people. They aren't capable of just being normal. Whether it's May robotting onto the stage, or Gove clapping like a drunk seal, or Truss and her pork markets. They have no connection with the average working man or woman, they are (for the most part) privileged, self-serving etonian robots
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Are you talking about the MPs that seek the limelight. The MPs that go about their jobs with decency. Those who vote conservative. Or all?
 
Disco down under said:
I'm no fan of the Labour party. At all.

But to suggest Farage is offering something new or better than anyone else is a hard one to understand.

I'd say absolutely everything I have ever seen him say stands in defiance of progress.

I'd say he's about as progressive as Oswald Mosley.

The whole man in the grey suit analogy is an odd one also. Does Farage not commonly wear grey suits? Is he not privately educated and the son of a stockbroker? Did he not work in finance in the city before he decided he thought Enoch Powell was a good man to model himself off.

He's hardly anti-institution, he just wants to make the institution a little more fascist and intolerant of the other.
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Just read Bob's post a new way, strangely l thought Farage reminded me of Mosley.

We have never had such a poor choice of leaders in my life time, we deserve better.
 
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I think it’s sad blanket covering everyone who belongs to or votes for any particular party.
 
Smug in Boots said:
Whenever I watch daytime TV there are endless adverts asking me to send money for poor disadvantaged people in countries around the world.

'Please send money, these poor children are having to swim in water polluted with raw sewage.'

'Please send money to help these poor people with medical procedures to improve their lives'.

Please send money so families don't live in poverty and have to use food banks to feed their children.'

Oh no, hang on that's the UK after 14 years of Tory 'improvements and initiatives' <doh>
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To be fair the Tories implemented initiatives and improvements.
They initiated creaming billions off us the working tax payers to improve their mates and their bank accounts.
 
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COYCS said:
Just read Bob's post a new way, strangely l thought Farage reminded me of Mosley.

We have never had such a poor choice of leaders in my life time, we deserve better.
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Farage is absolutely a Mosely type character. Plenty have been making the parallel for years in far more depth than I could.

To my mind, he's just an opportunist blaming the country's problems on outsiders. He's getting a loyal following by stirring up unrest amongst an already disenfranchised cohort who don't feel their interests are represented by bland politicians.

He's charismatic in absolutely the dullest way possible. He can say anything outrageous to get press because he knows the masses are never going to go for him. And because the other two are too afraid of saying anything at all, he appeals to some.

Not my cup of tea at all.
 
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Disco down under said:
Farage is absolutely a Mosely type character. Plenty have been making the parallel for years in far more depth than I could.

To my mind, he's just an opportunist blaming the country's problems on outsiders. He's getting a loyal following by stirring up unrest amongst an already disenfranchised cohort who don't feel their interests are represented by bland politicians.

He's charismatic in absolutely the dullest way possible. He can say anything outrageous to get press because he knows the masses are never going to go for him. And because the other two are too afraid of saying anything at all, he appeals to some.

Not my cup of tea at all.
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This is the problem, the 2 main parties are so unattractive to the undecided voters that someone like Farage is an option.
I have said a few times that I'm not sure if I'm going to vote as I'm not happy with either of the main 2.
However after a couple of comments Smug made and a quote someone else put on that I thought was quite fitting.
Something about a bus, if there are only 2 buses , neither are going to where you want to go, so would it not make more sense to get on the one that's going to take you closest to your destination rather than not get on the bus at all.
The way things are going there's only 2 parties that can get into power. I don't want either but I do want to make sure the tories have no chance of getting back in.
So I know what I need to do
 
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Regardless of what people think about Starmer, it baffles me how anyone could vote Tory after the events of the last few years - Boris lying to the Queen, covid parties, awarding contracts to their mates, Truss killing the economy, Sunak's team betting on the GE date, plus too many others to mention. Forget their supposed politics and their false manifesto promises, these people have been brazenly taking the piss out the general public and refusing to apologise or change their ways. It's shameful
 
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Iain said:
This is the problem, the 2 main parties are so unattractive to the undecided voters that someone like Farage is an option.
I have said a few times that I'm not sure if I'm going to vote as I'm not happy with either of the main 2.
However after a couple of comments Smug made and a quote someone else put on that I thought was quite fitting.
Something about a bus, if there are only 2 buses , neither are going to where you want to go, so would it not make more sense to get on the one that's going to take you closest to your destination rather than not get on the bus at all.
The way things are going there's only 2 parties that can get into power. I don't want either but I do want to make sure the tories have no chance of getting back in.
So I know what I need to do
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I'd walk.
 
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Iain said:
This is the problem, the 2 main parties are so unattractive to the undecided voters that someone like Farage is an option.
I have said a few times that I'm not sure if I'm going to vote as I'm not happy with either of the main 2.
However after a couple of comments Smug made and a quote someone else put on that I thought was quite fitting.
Something about a bus, if there are only 2 buses , neither are going to where you want to go, so would it not make more sense to get on the one that's going to take you closest to your destination rather than not get on the bus at all.
The way things are going there's only 2 parties that can get into power. I don't want either but I do want to make sure the tories have no chance of getting back in.
So I know what I need to do
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The problem with the Farage bus is that it says 'Not in service' on the front ...

... he knows he'll never have to back up a single word he says so can make wild promises.

He claims he'd stop the boats on Day One by scooping everyone up and dumping them on French soil. And he seriously believes the French would just sit back and watch, it's absolute ludicrous.
 
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Smug in Boots said:
The problem with the Farage bus is that it says 'Not in service' on the front ...

... he knows he'll never have to back up a single word he says so can make wild promises.

He claims he'd stop the boats on Day One by scooping everyone up and dumping them on French soil. And he seriously believes the French would just sit back and watch, it's absolute ludicrous.
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Literally minutes after the Brexit vote he was on GMB or some other breakfast show admitting that there was never a plan/possibility to give £350m per week to the NHS and that it was just a political tactic. Yet people still lap up his bullshit.

https://www.itv.com/goodmorningbritain/articles/nigel-farage-labels-350m-nhs-promise-a-mistake
 
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