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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by GLP, Aug 22, 2018.

  1. dennisboothstash

    dennisboothstash Well-Known Member

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    That’s only because they couldn’t prize Lee D away from us...
     
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  2. GLP

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    They’d be a league 2 side if they did <laugh>
     
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  3. GLP

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    Button is at Brighton.

    I’d also say the value of their current squad far outweighs the value of ours. They have got a terrific squad of players and play some great football.
     
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  4. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    He's the backup.

    I think the, play attractive football is important, and makes their players attractive. But they really aren't all that.
    They've not had a harry or robbo. Or a Brooks or Maddison.
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    Brentford looked excellent, but that Maupay should get a retrospective ban, that stamp was a shocker.
     
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  6. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    More like we deliver the Ku De Gra.
     
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  7. GLP

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    What’s to say they don’t have that sort of player in their current squad? I’d say this - what they achieve at present versus the clubs still benefiting from parachute payments is outstanding.

    Every season they lose 2-3 key players from their team - yet still manage to improve by bringing in the next player which they have already identified.

    I think it’s a very progressive way to run a club and I found it interesting last night when they were talking about some of the ways Brentford use statistics internally.
     
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  8. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    They may well have I wouldn't know.

    They're not improving though. Finished ninth again last season. Two or three years ago they made the play offs. They'll sell again at Xmas if they hit a slump.

    Can't see our fans been happy with selling our best players year on year. Weve done it for two years and lok what's happened to us.

    It is progressive re the analysis, but they're heavily reliant on their chairman andbenefactor putting his money in to prop them up. They're debt is increasing year on year. Even with player sales.
     
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  9. GLP

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    Most of that debt has increased due to Benham putting in money towards improving Club infrastructure. Circa £40m towards stadium and training facilities.
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

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    Most of the debt they have (70%) is nothing to do with normal club trading, it's all related to the building of their new stadium.
     
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  11. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Not what I've read.
    60 million in debt two years ago. Nothing to do with the stadium
     
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  12. GLP

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    Stadium funding was made available in 2015. Therefore will show in accounts from that point.
     
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    In their latest accounts (June 2017) and the debt is listed at £53.7m, with £26m of debt attributed to the Community Stadium Project. They've obviously still got debt, but it's one of the lower ones in the Championship (the ones that are lower tend to be those yo-yoing from League One, MK Dons and the like).
     
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  14. Walter Sobchak

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    Brentford are 10x a better club than us at present.
     
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  15. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    From the Bees forum.

    Erm, the club operates to a built-in operating loss of £15m per season. Prior to Matthew's intervention, we were living a hand to mouth existence, relying on player sales and BU monies (raised from the fanbase) to keep the club afloat with debts over £10m (once you factored in non-financial debt liabilities). Back then we were even worse off then Leyton Orient with the likes of abee and BeeH helping to run the club on a no-fee basis...Matthew refinanced the club, paid off the debts, has since funded the club to the tune of (give or take) £100m from his own personal fortune. I'd say it was pretty accurate...
     
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    That's not inaccurate, their operating loss is a matter of public record and it's not £15m per season (and it still relies on player sales), last season they made an operating loss of £854k and and the year before an operating loss of £7.6m.
     
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  17. Gone For A Walk

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    .... delayed until we play them
     
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  18. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Ye I can read the same things online you can. Debt went from what to what?? I'll let you fill It in.

    They saved money on wages by scrapping the academy too. Which when they do it you will applaud. If we did it you'd be up in arms.
     
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  19. Leon T Trout AFC

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    Some good points made re: Brentford.

    They've done and are doing well, but as ever, the situation is complex rather than they're simply all-round fantastic.

    I have no beef with them whatsoever, so don't mind them doing well, but I'd be surprised if they go the distance.

    I reckon around 8-10th and from my view, that's still a good season for them,
     
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    Can't be easy having CFC, FFC and DQPR in the area, they do very well to thrive in that context.

    Preferable to all the afore-mentioned as a club also.
     
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