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There were better cases to hang this campaign on than this vicious, drug peddling thug though.

 

Poppies on shirts is political

But as its something you agree with, it doesnt count in the keep politics out of sport rar rar

 

Ignore racist behaviour!! I imagine there is racist behaviour going on all round the world constantly. How many other rituals do we have to perform?
It’s highlighted how terrible some police conduct is in the US
In our country? Not so much.

 

For example police brutality ?

 

It's also one of, if not the least racist industries, as the number of BAME's it's made very wealthy can testify to.

If society has a problem, then society should resolve it, and not try to put the burden on a non-associated area, and particularly not through a specific political movement, as that is undemocratic. It's effectively claiming that YOU are racist.

 

So is racism.

 

Which proves that a political movement is the wrong voice to platform it, especially in the wrong arena. It doesn't support your initial claim about poppies either way.

 

C'mon Chazz, you know better than that.

 

Society. Society consists of it's constituent parts, calling on 'society' to do something is one of the biggest copouts going.

 

I disagree, but I would say that a far bigger cop out is lumping it on an industry that is by its very nature a meritocracy, and probably creates more wealthy BAME's than any other, especially when it's promoted for political ends.

 

Have you seen the history of the bloke? There are other far more deserving people who could have been the spearhead of a movement.

 

The symbology of taking a knee has transcended politics, just like the poppy has. It isn’t praising BLM, it’s showing that football, like other sections of society, are willing to take a stand against racism. We know there’s racism in football, football has taken the decision unilaterally to stand up to it. If football should just be about football, then tell that to the fans who make monkey chants or players who whisper racist comments in opposition ears.

Players who make racist comments should be banned for life, just like fans are.

 

Clearly, a lot of people disagree with the opinion you express in the first line. The poppy hasn't 'transcended' politics, it was never political in the first place.

None of that supports your initial claim or justifies football being used as a vehicle for a political movement.

 

Explain

 

War is political. I’d go as far to say that after actual politics, it’s probably the most political thing that exists.

There are absolutely political issues with not wearing one, ask John Snow (the broadcaster, not the Game of Thrones guy) or James McLean.

I don’t mind people disagreeing, that’s fine. In fact, it’s the best way to stimulate discussion. The fact that people disagree with taking the knee and are seeking alternative methods to combating racism is brilliant, so long as the replacement for the knee isn’t “nothing at all”. We’ve tried “nothing at all”, that doesn’t work.

 

What racism are you talking about in this country?

 

No , there's no racism in this country , nothing to see here

 

The poppy is not political.

 

I’m just going to leave that to hang for a while.