What is JWP like week in, week out? Heavily linked with trying to tempt him north, with Osman and Pienaar both going we need someone with a bit about him on the ball..
Depends whether you would offer us £30Million, Then you might have a chance.
What is JWP like week in, week out? Heavily linked with trying to tempt him north, with Osman and Pienaar both going we need someone with a bit about him on the ball..
Everton have now overtaken Liverpool and Spurs as the team I most want Saints to beat.Who left the ****ing door open?
Those so-called ITKs have been consistently accurate, and also consistently positive regarding the intentions of the board, for that matter. As is DTLW, who dug it up.
There is much more chance of Southampton signing players from Everton, Than the other way round.
Please don't tempt fate!
Darren Gibson!
Nah, they've just secured that gem on a new deal.
Already put up, but never mind. Reasonable article, though exceeding expectations is wrong. He matched them. An ambitious club doesn't appoint a manager to do worse than the previous guy, so 7th and 6th was OK.
How sad do you have to be, to go on to another teams forum and wind them up about stealing their manager?
If we had poached another teams manager, I wouldn't bother speaking to their fans, other than to maybe apologise and understand their frustration. It's genuinely so embarrassing that the toffee's feel the need to continually rub it in.
Koeman wants to make Tim Krul his first signing for Everton.
Already put up, but never mind. Reasonable article, though exceeding expectations is wrong. He matched them. An ambitious club doesn't appoint a manager to do worse than the previous guy, so 7th and 6th was OK.
It's splitting hairs, though. If you want to put it that way, then the club had enormous expectations, and it's to Koeman's credit that he matched them.
How many people really thought during the Meltdown of 2014 that Saints would beat their points total in 2015 and then beat THAT in 2016, qualifying for Europe twice in the process?
I don't like the way Koeman left us and I get the anger towards him there. And personally, I've always felt like switching up managers every 2-3 years is not a bad thing, for a number of reasons. Things just get stale and need to be shaken up every once in a while.
Still, I can't minimize what Koeman accomplished. There are many managers who couldn't have pulled us out of that situation as well as he did. Even if we accept that he doesn't have the tactical nous of Pochettino, or pooh-pooh his managerial skills altogether. His reputation still carried weight. I don't think we end up with Pelle, Tadic, Alderweireld and then later Clasie without him. And those guys were all pretty instrumental in our success.
IMO, Koeman was the person we needed in a moment of crisis. Even if he did it only for his own ends. Even if he is a lying, greedy jerk. I'll always like and respect Adkins more than RK but we wouldn't have done nearly as well with him.
Still, I can't minimize what Koeman accomplished. There are many managers who couldn't have pulled us out of that situation as well as he did. Even if we accept that he doesn't have the tactical nous of Pochettino, or pooh-pooh his managerial skills altogether. His reputation still carried weight. I don't think we end up with Pelle, Tadic, Alderweireld and then later Clasie without him. And those guys were all pretty instrumental in our success.
I genuinely don't think he was as big a draw as your making out.
Tadic was on our radar anyway, and Clasie said he'd have signed for us with or without Koeman. If Toby was that impressed with Koeman, he'd have signed for us permanently.
It isn't all Saints or all the manager....it's a symbiotic relationship. We provide a good opportunity for a player or manager to do his best.Good post, and I largely agree. But I think RK benefitted (way more than Poch) hugely from the way the club is run and good coaches around him. I may be completely wrong, of course, but we shall see.