Why are people on this site being so positive when everywhere else is in meltdown mode? Is it because we haven't the remotest idea of what is actually going on?
This is just one stage of the insanity. Acceptance.
Why are people on this site being so positive when everywhere else is in meltdown mode? Is it because we haven't the remotest idea of what is actually going on?
Why are people on this site being so positive when everywhere else is in meltdown mode? Is it because we haven't the remotest idea of what is actually going on?

The opposite - we actually remember previous meltdowns and how despite fans and media going crazy, the club itself stayed calm and progressed us each season. I'm more worried about the hints of dissatisfaction in our academy than I am about a head of department being replaced (was it Cortese or Ralph who referred to the manager that way?)Why are people on this site being so positive when everywhere else is in meltdown mode? Is it because we haven't the remotest idea of what is actually going on?
We definitely didn't actively want rid of him. We offered him a two year extension which we thought he was happy with. The fact he was happy with an extension and we wanted him to sign it goes some way to dismissing the idea that Koeman has only gone back on his word because the board didn't want him to just see out his final year. He was prepared to sign on but something (6m quid) turned his head!I think there a several reasons why Saints might have potentially wanted rid, some I am sure have been mentioned:
- Not playing enough academy players
- Disruption in the academy (potentially linked to the above)
- Management style upsetting some players (I think Tadic and Pelle were mentioned)
- Refusal to sign a new deal / commit to more than 1 yearand oversee a full plan plus have a season of doubt where the players know he is going (look at what happened to Man City)
If that is the case then replacements would have been thought of and potentially approached (just more secretively and professionally than Everton have done)
Think it was Cortese.The opposite - we actually remember previous meltdowns and how despite fans and media going crazy, the club itself stayed calm and progressed us each season. I'm more worried about the hints of dissatisfaction in our academy than I am about a head of department being replaced (was it Cortese or Ralph who referred to the manager that way?)
I think you're talking about Beefy's comment on vigils tweet.
We definitely didn't actively want rid of him. We offered him a two year extension which we thought he was happy with. The fact he was happy with an extension and we wanted him to sign it goes some way to dismissing the idea that Koeman has only gone back on his word because the board didn't want him to just see out his final year. He was prepared to sign on but something (6m quid) turned his head!
The opposite - we actually remember previous meltdowns and how despite fans and media going crazy, the club itself stayed calm and progressed us each season. I'm more worried about the hints of dissatisfaction in our academy than I am about a head of department being replaced (was it Cortese or Ralph who referred to the manager that way?)
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Exactly this - if Koeman was happy, then it's not about the ambition of the board ... he went back on his word because he's a snake and had his head turned by an obscene amount of money.
I honestly don't blame the board in this (unlike most)
Most? Hardly anyone here is blaming the board, if anyone at all.
Nothing to do with the fact that Tadic was used as a sub for 1/3 season and Pelle was out of favour for 1/4 of it?!I think there a several reasons why Saints might have potentially wanted rid, some I am sure have been mentioned:
- Management style upsetting some players (I think Tadic and Pelle were mentioned)
They've spoken to Everton. They're just back tracking now because it looks bad. I wouldn't be surprised if it drags another few days. In fact if I was Les, I'd procrastinate on the compo and permission to speak while we beavered away on the replacement. Then announce ours very quickly after Everton announce Koeman.
No need for niceties now.
In fairness, if history has taught us anything, when the bigger clubs come for our players or managers, they generally get them.There seems to be an assumption by many that if we want Howe, we'll get Howe.
Which is strange becuase it'd mean Howe going against a contract he signed recently at Bournemouth. In that sense, it's not really any different to what we all get annoyed about when the top 4/5 clubs come after our players, and yet we're happy to do it to other 'smaller' teams and not worry too much about it.
Too true, lets string them along for as long as possible.
We would have been trying to sign players before Ron did his u-turn. We need get in a new manager before we can recommence those negotiations.
Everton might think they're a bigger club with this new found wealth, but they're still going to be shopping in the same aisle as us.
In fairness, if history has taught us anything, when the bigger clubs come for our players or managers, they generally get them.