Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

You assume that someone who questions something is attacking the original poster I wasn't but your point isn't the only point; there are other points across the argument.

In an ideal and perfect world borders wouldn't exist and opportunities to find jobs and establish roots in any country would be available to all regardless of your Labour market skills.

But we don't live in that world - I wish we did.

There is every chance that every British national alive today, and potentially their children and grandchildren, will be eligable to be dual nationals holding EU citizenship meaning freedom of movement may remain - I would hope that any EU national who calls the UK their home would benefit from this also.

But like so much it's speculation.

 

Your personal experience is being dismissed by him as dismissive, you couldn't make this **** up

 

There is a section of society in general that feel the world owes them a living. As Fosse has said, for most it's what you make of it...

For them, I would agree with this....

 

But we did live in a World where 28 of the most developed countries in the World lived by exactly that principle....

But we've chosen to withdraw from it.

What happens moving forwards remains to be seen, but if those pushing against free movement get their way, then we've closed the door on that for the youth of today and the generations behind them.

 

Of all the biographies I've read, this is by far the dullest. It's amazing that you haven't already died of boredom.

 

I agree totally.

I will say though that all of the youth I've seen complaining about the potential removal of their chances as a result of freedom of movement have been well educated young professionals or even younger educated budding professionals....

The young tracky wearing youth seem more worried about their holidays....

My point being that the intellectual elite will in all likelihood be alright whatever happens.

 

Same 28 countries that is the worst performing continent, wow what a great club to be in.

 

At the time of your prediction it was down 8% post referendum. You said it would be back at pre referendum levels in 2 weeks. I advised you to back your judgement and invest as an 8% return in 2 weeks would be a good investment.

After two weeks it was down a further 1% which made your prediction spectacularly ****.

I'm surprised you've chosen to bring it up again!

 

Sorry I do disagree with the first paragraph the EU is not made up of 28 of the most developed countries in the World....

 

3 days to go

 

Does you ignorance literally know no bounds?

The worst performing continent? By what measure?

13 of the top 20 most prosperous countries in the World are European.

 

Until what? Until your 2 week prediction has hit 24 days?

By the way, celebrating that it's still only down 3% kind of makes a mockery of how leaving the EU was a good call for British business!

 

You seem to be answering a question I never asked, but confirming my point at the same time.

It's the 'attitude' you refer to that I say makes them victims, not a cause or targets.

 

They understand the issue and yet still see it as a problem, why's that?

Maybe because free movement is free movement and despite your assertion that they'll still have the same level of opportunity, they don't view it like that.

There's a difference between applying for work visas and sorting out pre-arranged employment, than just rocking up at your destination of choice and starting from scratch.

 

Not 64% of 18-24 voted, as lots of them were not registered to vote, due to taking selfies for facebook.

 

How does some of our youth having a lack of appetite and desire to work equate to them being 'victims'

Victims of what exactly?

 

Have a read of my other replies.

 

Maybe that's why I posted "64% of those eligible to vote in the 18-24 bracket did so"

How many weren't registered by the way?

As for your comment "75% did not vote, to busy playing xbox and taking selfies" to be correct, it must have been millions

 

Aside from lack of parental guidance I don't agree that there's a large section of our youth that should be viewed as being victims of our society.

Many lack perspective, as they have developed the same "it's someone else's problem" to their own lives, that they've been taught is the way it is by their feckless parents.

The reality is that they live in a country were opportunity is plentiful, but they choose to ignore the opportunities and blame someone else for their own lack of motivation and drive to provide for themselves.

The 3rd generation of Thatchers legacy, but I think labelling them as victims and cow towing to them is a massive part of the problem.

 

I disagree with most of that for the rea sons I've already posted. There are far fewer real opportunities now than there were 20 years ago. That's based on personal experience, and shared experience from a fair few of that age.