Off Topic EU deabte. Which way are you voting ?

Import/export from H M Customs

https://www.uktradeinfo.com/Statistics/OverseasTradeStatistics/Pages/OTS.aspx

so who need who most

 

Can you imagine a scenario, post Brexit where the bumbling buffoon Boris is PM, trying to negotiate deals with the EU on the back of us being a 'proud nation' who have just ****ed off the whole of Europe ? It's a wasteland scenario.

 

It receives no core funding from Govt or the EU.

 

Where's 80m come from?

Are you a S*n reporter?

 

That net saving is based on the money we no longer pay into the EU and doesn't consider improved economic performance through better trade outside of the EU (which I appreciate is debatable).

And again the impact on our economy will depend on what kind of deal we get in place.

 

We are net importers as a country. When the pound nosedives, as it will, those imports will become far more expensive. With all the ensuing consequences to the UK economy and to the public's personal finances.

 

And leaving the EU is going to solve all that?....!

 

Whether it nosedives or whether it has a wobble is a matter of opinion and again will depend largely on how we deal with the exit rather than the actual exit (to clarify I'm not suggesting that there won't be an initial fall).

 

That the projected levels buy 2030 and thats from the treasury

 

We can control our borders that will mean less immigrants coming in (we choose who we want/need ) thats less people in our already overcrowded country.

 

Your ******ed PM says he will stop the triple lock on pensioners pensions, even though he will not get the vote through Parliament, more scare stories from the IN club.

Your PM is finished (if you are a tory boy that is)

 

It's wishful thinking. The economists all point to the fact that our economy will be severely hit. Just saying 'it will recover' is akin to burying your head in the sand. Also all of the countries that are outside of trading blocks who trade with the EU have to pay a tariff to trade with the EU anyway. We're stronger in the EU because we benefit from the collective trade and we get to shape the policy and decision making from being on the inside.

 

The report I quoted there DID consider the economic performance of our worldwide trade post an EU exit.

But even ignoring exports, the U.K. economy will take a nosedive should the pound crumble and inflation kicks in, as interest rates will have to rise to counter it, and thus disposable income in this country falls, and with it our GDP.

The Brexit campaign simply can't come up with a coherent argument that stands up to any scuriny on the economic outlook for the UK being anything other than bleak.

It's a simple equation, you piss off and alienate your biggest market and end up (whenever that is) with new trading terms that are worse than you currently have in the free market - this is a given, and in the interim you've subjected your own economy to huge uncertainty and you've taken a bath from the consequences of that.

If you set aside all of the other arguments about our EU membership, then purely from an economic standpoint an exit is pure idiocy.

 

The NHS and public services are at breaking point because of an increasing indigenous and ageing population, coupled with massive cuts to public spending on the back of austerity. Blaming Johnny Foreigner is lazy BS.

 

It isn't wishful thinking to say that uncertainty will subside as deals get put in place and as things stabilise the markets will recover, that's just how economics works, it's a wave. The debatable bit is whether we will peak higher than our current position or lower.

Again, it will depend on what deal we do with the Eu as to what kind of tariffs if any we and they end up paying on trade, there is no fact surrounding this point it is all opinion until a deal was agreed. Also any trade deals we then choose to do with countries outside of the EU would no longer have to conform to EU rules, regulations and tariffs. So there is an argument to be made for us being in a stronger trade position outside the EU even if we continue to have to meet EU standards for trade with the EU.

People make out that these issues are so simple but the majority of this stuff has two sides to it.

 

You do realise that last year non EU immigration to this country was higher than from the EU don't you?

 

Half the immigration to the UK is illegal, and from outside the EU....

Leaving the EU won't stop all the boats and dinghies coming across, full of economic migrants from Syria, etc...

 

Also nothing to do with the extra people here, thats even more strain on the NHS and dont forget Schools

 

Why will the £ nosedive. I accept that there might be some short term readjustment of currencies, but how does that equate to a nosedive?
If the UK, pulls out of the EU, then that's a large proportion of its annual contributions gone, as the EU relies on member states for its wealth. The other members are unlikely to be able to make this shortfall up, so surely the Euro would ultimately be devalued. Doesn't this potentially make the £ stronger?

 

Yes and the Gov need to sort that out as well