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How are Labour doing after their first 12 months


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Starmer is the wrong PM for the wrong time - he doesn't possess the natural abilities required to cut through the populist noise and right now the UK has ****ing three major populist parties on different ends of the political spectrum, Reform, Greens and SNP.

You need someone personable, who can travel around the country actually talking to the ****ing voters, its exactly what Farage is doing. Even if Starmer tried it, he wouldn't be able to pull it off.

A character like Burnham could, but never Starmer and Streeting is even worse.
If Starmer stepped aside I can't think of anyone else I;d want, if Miliband got it that would cause a ****ing melt-down.
 
If Starmer stepped aside I can't think of anyone else I;d want, if Miliband got it that would cause a ****ing melt-down.

The UK is currently facing the worst crop of politicians in its modern history surely, they're all to a man complete and utter ****.

I should say "front line" politicians.
 
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The UK is currently facing the worst crop of politicians in its modern history surely, they're all to a man complete and utter ****.

I should say "front line" politicians.
I quite like Mahmood, and I can see the potential bantz trigger effect of her becoming PM. She always comes across as quite calm and serious, never mouthing off, respectful, probably too much good criteria there to be a PM in this world.
 
Yeah I've decided she's defo my pick of the bunch. I can't take anyone else seriously enough. And I think her going head to head against Badenoch in the house, would be must watch tv. <laugh>
 
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I quite like Mahmood, and I can see the potential bantz trigger effect of her becoming PM. She always comes across as quite calm and serious, never mouthing off, respectful, probably too much good criteria there to be a PM in this world.
I always thought Rishi Sunak got a raw deal. He seemed a steady pair of hands at a time when the Tories were constantly chopping and changing. He was backed up by Hunt, who I don’t particularly like but he done a good job at getting the economy back on track after the Kwasi disaster.

I think his skin colour was always a problem for too many and I suspect it would be the same for Mahmood. Her name would go against her.
 
I always thought Rishi Sunak got a raw deal. He seemed a steady pair of hands at a time when the Tories were constantly chopping and changing. He was backed up by Hunt, who I don’t particularly like but he done a good job at getting the economy back on track after the Kwasi disaster.

I think his skin colour was always a problem for too many and I suspect it would be the same for Mahmood. Her name would go against her.
Rishi is a bit like my youngest, he can crunch numbers quickly in his head, you don't need a calculator their brains are it, which is why Chancellor always suited Sunak, and he would know if someone was spinning bollocks with the economy - only trouble with him, he was a bit stuck in his ways, when he saw something, he would often only calculate one path, the one he knew, if he had to think outside the box he was ****ed, and that ****ed him as PM, because his support package was a bunch of drips.
 
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Yeah I've decided she's defo my pick of the bunch. I can't take anyone else seriously enough. And I think her going head to head against Badenoch in the house, would be must watch tv. <laugh>
You captured my thoughts exactly. Badenoch comes across as someone who just shouts louder than others, whist not accepting that at least 75% of the mess this country is in came from her own party whilst in government.
 
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Rishi is a bit like my youngest, he can crunch numbers quickly in his head, you don't need a calculator their brains are it, which is why Chancellor always suited Sunak, and he would know if someone was spinning bollocks with the economy - only trouble with him, he was a bit stuck in his ways, when he saw something, he would often only calculate one path, the one he knew, if he had to think outside the box he was ****ed, and that ****ed him as PM, because his support package was a bunch of drips.
I think Rishi’s biggest problem was his wife’s wealth which came mostly from lucrative contracts her family had with the government.
 
The UK is currently facing the worst crop of politicians in its modern history surely, they're all to a man complete and utter ****.

I should say "front line" politicians.
This is also coupled with people expecting immediate change, largely being driven by the media, and if this change isn’t immediate looking for someone else to blame. You’ve only got to go and look at the GC thread to see the “it’s all the fault of immigrants”rhetoric.
 
Does it matter who’s better qualified for the job?

The point is, he should never been appointed because he was jumping about with *****philes and perverts.

It’s not the quality of his work that is up for debate.

Doesn't stop you becoming a World leader mate ... quite obviously...
 
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Starmer is the wrong PM for the wrong time - he doesn't possess the natural abilities required to cut through the populist noise and right now the UK has ****ing three major populist parties on different ends of the political spectrum, Reform, Greens and SNP.

You need someone personable, who can travel around the country actually talking to the ****ing voters, its exactly what Farage is doing. Even if Starmer tried it, he wouldn't be able to pull it off.

A character like Burnham could, but never Starmer and Streeting is even worse.

Broadly agree with your take on Starmer.. he's the most uncharismatic PM of my lifetime ... at a time when we need a PM that is a mix of Chuchill, John Smith and Ken Clarke... also agree with you about Farage, like him or loath him, he is a smooth and consumate orator...

Don't mind Davey a bit nuts but comes across as a good bloke... but Badenoch is bloody awful ... even if there is a potential point to be made she somehow seems to be able to **** it up ...
 
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I always thought Rishi Sunak got a raw deal. He seemed a steady pair of hands at a time when the Tories were constantly chopping and changing. He was backed up by Hunt, who I don’t particularly like but he done a good job at getting the economy back on track after the Kwasi disaster.

I think his skin colour was always a problem for too many and I suspect it would be the same for Mahmood. Her name would go against her.
Don't know much about Mahmood - but really like what she has done since appointed - but too soon for the top gig IMHO

Sunak also suffered (again IMHO) because it was difficult for a financially struggling public to take austerity advice from a man married to a billionaire's daughter ... a woman who avoided paying UK tax ...
 
Don't know much about Mahmood - but really like what she has done since appointed - but too soon for the top gig IMHO

Sunak also suffered (again IMHO) because it was difficult for a financially struggling public to take austerity advice from a man married to a billionaire's daughter ... a woman who avoided paying UK tax ...
He didn’t have Sky TV as a child. Quite relatable to a lot of people, I thought <laugh>
 
I think Rishi’s biggest problem was his wife’s wealth which came mostly from lucrative contracts her family had with the government.


And the fact that he was so blatantly a member of the international oligarchy, he couldn't possibly have any real empathy or understanding of the common man or woman.