Defoe is back

[Hettonista]

Arnhem is off ignore and you've been subbed on Realist. There's enough tedium and misery without coming on here for it! Sorry if you're being genuine but I think you may be on the wind up, just being realistic . . . sure you're not fussed either way which is fair enough

 

[Smug in Boots]

I get the proven part, certainly an argument for that over the inexperienced Terry but who realistically fits that description?

You've posted dozens of times that Johnson was the problem ...

... now he's been sacked you're blaming KLD who sacked him, Speakman, the players and the entire set up at the club.

Not being rude but I'm feeling quite optimistic and can't be bothered with your endless doom and gloom routine.

There are better posters to talk to, no offence.

 

[Chunksafc]

How about eyes?? I don’t need data to tell me dajaku will never play above level we are at as long as got hole in his @rse!
This ‘talented bunch’ have been responsible for some of the most humiliating results in our history.

Dajku, the young German player in a foreign country that works his bollox off most games but obviously needs coaching will never play above a league 1 level?

What exactly do you expect from him? Has he improved? Is he willing to learn?

 

[John Wick]

Give him the number 10 shirt.

 

[Nads]

Sorry mate, but no to Keane for me, that's just nostalgia for him. He's really done nothing since leaving us, he was heavily backed at Ipswich but sacked after a season and a half with them never looking like challenging for promotion. He's never been close to another management job since then, and that's over 10 years ago now. He was only a coach at Villa for about 5 months before packing in and when people like Harry Arter can laugh at him to his face as happened when he was coaching the ROI, it doesn't show that he commanded respect from them. Even when you look at his last season here before he left, we were on a massive slide in form, had only won 1 game in 8, he'd fallen out with players and brought poison like Diouf and Chimbonda into the squad.

I'll always admire him for what he did here initially and can forgive him how things were going towards the end, but I'd rather we looked forward rather than back and brought someone else in.

All valid points mate, and I absolutely respect your standpoint on that.

I just see the other side, he put a rocket up the club and his status alone would bring a lift.

Aye there’s an element of nostalgia, but for me there’s a big slice of logic and positives too.

Wont be him anyway.

 

[The realist]

Dajku, the young German player in a foreign country that works his bollox off most games but obviously needs coaching will never play above a league 1 level?

What exactly do you expect from him? Has he improved? Is he willing to learn?

He could improve then be somewhere else next season, so could Hoffman, Doyle, Roberts, Defoe, Broadhead!
I’ve had these discussions for years with mates, lads in pubs at games etc with their baseless optimism and we now find ourselves in league 1 for fourth season in a row!
The last time I had real hope as a fan was under Keane, it really felt like we were going somewhere and it’s been me shambles after another since.

 

[young2077]

Dajku, the young German player in a foreign country that works his bollox off most games but obviously needs coaching will never play above a league 1 level?

What exactly do you expect from him? Has he improved? Is he willing to learn?

I think all of the players we signed have shown they ar good prospects and gives us a great deal of hope for the new policy good forward.

Yeah we got humped a few times and it's worrying but I'm not sure how much blame sits on players and how much is with manager? Setting up wrong for conditions on two occasions, not realising we can't play 4 at the back etc.

 

[Chunksafc]

He could improve then be somewhere else next season, so could Hoffman, Doyle, Roberts, Defoe, Broadhead!
I’ve had these discussions for years with mates, lads in pubs at games etc with their baseless optimism and we now find ourselves in league 1 for fourth season in a row!
The last time I had real hope as a fan was under Keane, it really felt like we were going somewhere and it’s been me shambles after another since.

So you didn't have hope under Reid when we were flying in the Premier league?

 

[young2077]

He could improve then be somewhere else next season, so could Hoffman, Doyle, Roberts, Defoe, Broadhead!
I’ve had these discussions for years with mates, lads in pubs at games etc with their baseless optimism and we now find ourselves in league 1 for fourth season in a row!
The last time I had real hope as a fan was under Keane, it really felt like we were going somewhere and it’s been me shambles after another since.

They will be elsewhere if we don't get promotion this season but you can't fault the recruitment because of that?

Would you rather we sign league 1 journeymen cause they will sign up for 3 years and be here next season regardless?

 

[Chunksafc]

I think all of the players we signed have shown they ar good prospects and gives us a great deal of hope for the new policy good forward.

Yeah we got humped a few times and it's worrying but I'm not sure how much blame sits on players and how much is with manager? Setting up wrong for conditions on two occasions, not realising we can't play 4 at the back etc.

I have said all only there is a player there is djaku, he just needs coaching.

Cirkin / Hoffman / Doyle was / are highly rated and left to get game time.

For where we are I am comfortable with the strategy

 

[The realist]

So you didn't have hope under Reid when we were flying in the Premier league?

Of course but I said the last time not the only time.
I’m over moon Johnson has gone as no way he was taking us up.
Let’s see what this new regime conjure up, I’ve seen little from them to inspire me yet.

 

[The realist]

They will be elsewhere if we don't get promotion this season but you can't fault the recruitment because of that?

Would you rather we sign league 1 journeymen cause they will sign up for 3 years and be here next season regardless?

So what was point in them if don’t get up and not here next season? That has to be the worst recruitment drive ever!
Linked with Kingolo, now that would be a signing that would signal intent.

 

[Chunksafc]

Of course but I said the last time not the only time.
I’m over moon Johnson has gone as no way he was taking us up.
Let’s see what this new regime conjure up, I’ve seen little from them to inspire me yet.

So not one of the signings since KLD took over has impressed you? Nothing at all to inspire you?

 

[The Norton Cat]

I think all of the players we signed have shown they ar good prospects and gives us a great deal of hope for the new policy good forward.

Yeah we got humped a few times and it's worrying but I'm not sure how much blame sits on players and how much is with manager? Setting up wrong for conditions on two occasions, not realising we can't play 4 at the back etc.

The players we have signed are all good prospects. I think a large part of the problem is the players we haven't signed (until, perhaps, tonight).

 

[young2077]

So what was point in them if don’t get up and not here next season? That has to be the worst recruitment drive ever!
Linked with Kingolo, now that would be a signing that would signal intent.

To get us up thos season and sign permanent deals next season when we were in a higher league. They can play at a higher level and will do one to get that next season, if you think signing players that will be able to get over to a higher level if we don't go up is the worst recruitment ever you have a different view in what recruitment should be than me.

What type of signing should we have been making? Yeah I'd love to see everyone come in on permanent deals bit if that isn't and option but temporary with the chance of permanent next year is better than nothing.

 

[ShieldsmanFTM]

No doubt that we've signed a lot of 'prospects'. The issue I have with them is that we have A LOT of young lads on the pitch together who are in their first competitive season. When things go wrong, it's easy for young heads to drop. I'm all for blooding youth but there's an argument that on occasion this season we've gone a little overboard.

 

[The realist]

To get us up thos season and sign permanent deals next season when we were in a higher league. They can play at a higher level and will do one to get that next season, if you think signing players that will be able to get over to a higher level if we don't go up is the worst recruitment ever you have a different view in what recruitment should be than me.

What type of signing should we have been making? Yeah I'd love to see everyone come in on permanent deals bit if that isn't and option but temporary with the chance of permanent next year is better than nothing.

I don’t mind the odd loan but not when we could end up at least six players down in summer.
I’d have liked to get decent championship players. Batth comes with decent pedigree at that level. Kongolo would be same.
The Germans aren’t up to much in my opinion and are being cut slack due to fact they’re at big clubs. Waste of time them two.
Doyle don’t mind but can’t be relied on week in week out like we have done.
Evans and Pritchard are crocks which is why they’re here.
Huggins hasn’t kicked a ball really and cirkin looks Ok.
How if this recruitment is so good are we languishing in 3rd place?

 

[The realist]

No doubt that we've signed a lot of 'prospects'. The issue I have with them is that we have A LOT of young lads on the pitch together who are in their first competitive season. When things go wrong, it's easy for young heads to drop. I'm all for blooding youth but there's an argument that on occasion this season we've gone a little overboard.

Correct.
It’s bizarre that we are waxing lyrical about recruitnent yet sit well behind Wigan who signed max power who wasn’t good enough for us.

 

[robinoz]

Looks like AOB, as we suspected, will leave providing there's no hitch with Defoe ...

... for anyone unsure about JD coming back, who'd you prefer on the bench.

AOB to Pompey, done deal, but only to season end apparently.

 

[The Norton Cat]

I don’t mind the odd loan but not when we could end up at least six players down in summer.
I’d have liked to get decent championship players. Batth comes with decent pedigree at that level. Kongolo would be same.
The Germans aren’t up to much in my opinion and are being cut slack due to fact they’re at big clubs. Waste of time them two.
Doyle don’t mind but can’t be relied on week in week out like we have done.
Evans and Pritchard are crocks which is why they’re here.
Huggins hasn’t kicked a ball really and cirkin looks Ok.
How if this recruitment is so good are we languishing in 3rd place?

Because a) it takes time to build a team, and b) no matter what you do, nothing is a given in sport.
But I think you know this really.