Damion Downs

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Billy Bates said:
If this kind of posting style is seen as acceptable, then maybe the rules need to be clearer. There’s a difference between strong opinions and the kind of sarcasm or hostility that shuts people down. Lately, it feels like certain posters are crossing that line - not by what they’re saying, but by how they’re saying it.

It’s fine to criticise a player, a decision, or another poster’s point of view. But when every comment drips with negativity, mockery, or condescension, it stops being a discussion and becomes a performance. That doesn’t add anything to the conversation - it just pushes others away or makes them reluctant to share their views.

If we’re all here because we care about the team, then we owe it to each other to keep it constructive. You can be honest and passionate without being unpleasant. Once it turns personal or sneering, everyone loses - and the forum stops feeling like a community worth engaging with.

What’s frustrating is seeing how inconsistently this is handled. Some posters get banned or warned for far less, while others seem to get a free ride no matter how they speak to people. That kind of uneven moderation just breeds resentment and gives the impression that tone and respect don’t really matter here - when they should.
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Just to support the mods, I have been banned from several threads, warned repeatedly in private messages, but I usually know where the limit is…
 
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I am not replying to everyone. I will rephrase it:

People who say he has earned this level of negativity after 151 minutes of Championship football are ****ing irritating me.
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*181 minutes. Plus three appearances in the cup, totalling another 120 mins.

So 300 mins, or over three full games. Still not a lot, granted, but he has done nothing at all of any note. If Archer went three games barely touching the ball, we’d be calling for him to be dropped.
 
Che’s Godlike Thighs said:
*181 minutes. Plus three appearances in the cup, totalling another 120 mins.

So 300 mins, or over three full games. Still not a lot, granted, but he has done nothing at all of any note. If Archer went three games barely touching the ball, we’d be calling for him to be dropped.
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But Archer has gone 3 games several times doing nothing. His first game against Forest he looked awful. Many, many players have started poorly. It happens. As people are rightly saying, he is getting the brunt because he is the wrong signing. We needed someone ready who would get straight into it.

That doesn’t mean he is ****. The first couple of appearances he looked ok but missed decent chances. The last couple he has looked much worse. My point is that confidence matters for that, and it is the supporters’ job to support.

The Derby support - and maybe this was where the mics were positioned - sounded dreadful. Manning was appalling, yet here we are fixating on some kid who played a bit part.
 
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But Archer has gone 3 games several times doing nothing. His first game against Forest he looked awful. Many, many players have started poorly. It happens. As people are rightly saying, he is getting the brunt because he is the wrong signing. We needed someone ready who would get straight into it.

That doesn’t mean he is ****. The first couple of appearances he looked ok but missed decent chances. The last couple he has looked much worse. My point is that confidence matters for that, and it is the supporters’ job to support.

The Derby support - and maybe this was where the mics were positioned - sounded dreadful. Manning was appalling, yet here we are fixating on some kid who played a bit part.
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The support at Derby was fine. It never helps when the away fans are stuck in a corner like that.
 
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But Archer has gone 3 games several times doing nothing. His first game against Forest he looked awful. Many, many players have started poorly. It happens. As people are rightly saying, he is getting the brunt because he is the wrong signing. We needed someone ready who would get straight into it.

That doesn’t mean he is ****. The first couple of appearances he looked ok but missed decent chances. The last couple he has looked much worse. My point is that confidence matters for that, and it is the supporters’ job to support.

The Derby support - and maybe this was where the mics were positioned - sounded dreadful. Manning was appalling, yet here we are fixating on some kid who played a bit part.
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Manning had a bad game, and was stupid for their goal. But before yesterday he has been one of our better players, scored twice and assisted a couple. He’s earned himself a bad performance. Also, he’s played practically every minute since Wellington got injured. And Manning received a lot of criticism in his first season.
 
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Che’s Godlike Thighs said:
Manning had a bad game, and was stupid for their goal. But before yesterday he has been one of our better players, scored twice and assisted a couple. He’s earned himself a bad performance. Also, he’s played practically every minute since Wellington got injured. And Manning received a lot of criticism in his first season.
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TBF he wasn't good against Sheffield United either.
 
Libby said:
I do feel for him and it's not his fault at all ultimately, I feel sorry for him a bit really as it's not entirely fair that he's put in a position where he needs to deliver immediately.

The problem lies squarely with SR/Spors imo for leaving us so light in that position. He may well develop into a decent player at this level in time, I'm certainly not writing him off in that respect.

However he clearly looks well off the required standard now and more like one for the future which isn't what was needed for that position at all, especially given the situation with Stewart and the question marks around whether or not he could maintain his fitness.

It's absurd that we've put ourselves in this position, and I think that feeling is magnified by the perception that investing in the future rather than the here and now has been a common theme since SR took over.
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This post is spot on
 
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But Archer has gone 3 games several times doing nothing. His first game against Forest he looked awful. Many, many players have started poorly. It happens. As people are rightly saying, he is getting the brunt because he is the wrong signing. We needed someone ready who would get straight into it.

That doesn’t mean he is ****. The first couple of appearances he looked ok but missed decent chances. The last couple he has looked much worse. My point is that confidence matters for that, and it is the supporters’ job to support.

The Derby support - and maybe this was where the mics were positioned - sounded dreadful. Manning was appalling, yet here we are fixating on some kid who played a bit part.
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Loads of people wrote Archer off really quickly too and a good chunk of people at games seem to dislike him quite a lot. In fact there was someone stood near me at Bramall Lane who moaned like **** when he came on and said "I'd much prefer to see Downs".

Manning got absolutely loads of stick from very early on too from the second game vs. Norwich.

The support at Derby was decent enough for an hour ish I thought but poor towards the end. Everyone became very downbeat after Stewart came off imo. Could probably break it into 3 sections actually:

Up until Stewart injury - 7/10
From Stewart injury to about an hour - 4-5/10
Last 30ish minutes - 2/10

Not great but certainly not dreadful. As I said on Saturday it's one of the better away ends of the season which shows just how poor we mostly are now.
 
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Libby said:
Loads of people wrote Archer off really quickly too and a good chunk of people at games seem to dislike him quite a lot. In fact there was someone stood near me at Bramall Lane who moaned like **** when he came on and said "I'd much prefer to see Downs".

Manning got absolutely loads of stick from very early on too from the second game vs. Norwich.

The support at Derby was decent enough for an hour ish I thought but poor towards the end. Everyone became very downbeat after Stewart came off imo. Could probably break it into 3 sections actually:

Up until Stewart injury - 7/10
From Stewart injury to about an hour - 4-5/10
Last 30ish minutes - 2/10

Not great but certainly not dreadful. As I said on Saturday it's one of the better away ends of the season which shows just how poor we mostly are now.
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That is pretty much exactly how it sounded to me.
 
Everything I read about how useless our forwards were, I am transported back to my youth when I grew up with Ted MacDougall and Phil Boyer , a partnership which captured by imagination as a kid. They seemed to form a freewheeling partnership where goals came easy.

Our current strike force seems well off the pace but I do think that Fraser and Armstrong have been good. Stewart seems to be better when playing away and I was hoping he woukd come good. Not sure why Robinson is excluded but I just feel that Archer and Downs will never provide the solution. We seem to have issues with forwards. I was never that enthused by Che Adams yet I do recognise those fans discussed in here who have been critical of players like Long and Redmond who never got the credit they deserved. There have been too many youngsters brought in for their potential when the club could do with a few old hands like MacDougall and Boyer to fund the back of the net.
 
Le Tissier's Laces said:
I get both sides here, even though I despise booing. The lad needs a run of games in the U21s...

...which got me on to thinking about something.

Nick Oyekunle is the record holder for any U18 team anywhere, any team for goals. He's got 4 in 6 now for the U21 team too.

I know he's only 18, and I know it's very early to be saying it (plus he's not a big striker profile, he's another miniature man). But...hmmm...I wonder when he gets a shot?
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Steve Moran, Danny Wallace, Alan Shearer, Matt LeTiss, Theo Walcott, AOC, we have a history of blooding these players. It's a bit worrying when a kid who has actually produced good performances (J-Rob) gets left out completely.
 
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