Match Day Thread Crystal Palace V Liverpool

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What will occur:

  • Liverpool win

    Votes: 12 66.7%

  • Draw

    Votes: 3 16.7%

  • Palace win

    Votes: 1 5.6%

  • Gerrez buys mrs (nm) a mother's day gift and shocks the world

    Votes: 1 5.6%

  • Is it on TV...?

    Votes: 1 5.6%
  • Total voters
    18
Super G Ted'inho said:
Go back and find the match thread on here for that game. There will be plenty of you that are claiming yesterday's to be a legitimate penalty that said the one above wasn't.

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Go back just one week and you'll see that I, and many others on here, instantly said that Moreno's dickheaded backheel tackle on Aguero was a stonewall pen, even though there's no doubt Augero simply saw his outstretched leg and ran into it with an oblliglatory fall. Dive'? No. Exaggeration? Probably. Still a pen though, as it was careless and reckless.
 
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Super G Ted'inho said:
This "there was contact" argument that's come into the game in recent years is a joke in itself. It's meant to be a contact sport ffs!

At 6'4" and about 13st+, there is no way that "contact" would take Benteke off his feet. He wasn't sprinting or preforming some some of ballet type spin/trick either.
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Never done judo, I suspect. The height and weight running at speed makes it all the more likely you'll lose balance. And, btw, why should you stay on your feet anyway? Has it become the equivalent of walking before the decision in an lbw decision?
 
donga kloppo said:
Never done judo, I suspect. The height and weight running at speed makes it all the more likely you'll lose balance. And, btw, why should you stay on your feet anyway? Has it become the equivalent of walking before the decision in an lbw decision?
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Because in the rules you posted it mentions "trip" not making contact, that is why people throw themselves to the ground, to make it seem like a trip (foul) <ok>
 
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Diego said:
Because in the rules you posted it mentions "trip" not making contact, that is why people throw themselves to the ground, to make it seem like a trip (foul) <ok>
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It also mentions making a reckless and careless tackle. You don't just have to trip. Read the rules again.
 
my butthurt-o-meter has gone off the scale since diego posted that :emoticon-0104-surpr
 
Diego said:
By the way, reckless and careless are words used to describe a tackle that could cause harm :emoticon-0100-smile
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says who? Any uncontrolled tackle could cause harm or trip/impede a player, whether contact with legs, feet, elbows, whatever (even the opponent's shirt if you include Young's trapeze act with QPR referred to earlier).
 
donga kloppo said:
says who? Any uncontrolled tackle could cause harm or trip/impede a player, whether contact with legs, feet, elbows, whatever (even the opponent's shirt if you include Young's trapeze act with QPR referred to earlier).
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It is why those specific words are used, by that phrasing a player does not have to make contact to commit a foul, he only needs to act in a reckless/careless way which could endanger the other player.
 
Diego said:
It is why those specific words are used, by that phrasing a player does not have to make contact to commit a foul, he only needs to act in a reckless/careless way which could endanger the other player.
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FIFA Laws of the Game 2015-16

Direct free kick

A direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following seven offences in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:

  • kicks or attempts to kick an opponent
  • trips or attempts to trip an opponent
  • jumps at an opponent
  • charges an opponent
  • strikes or attempts to strike an opponent
  • pushes an opponent
  • tackles an opponent
A direct free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following three offences:

  • holds an opponent
  • spits at an opponent
  • handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)
A direct free kick is taken from the place where the offence occurred (see Law 13 - Position of free kick).


Read more at http://www.thefa.com/football-rules...fouls-and-misconduct.aspx#03XXKprKAdebJQtX.99

No it doesn't.
 
donga kloppo said:
FIFA Laws of the Game 2015-16

Direct free kick

A direct free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following seven offences in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:

  • kicks or attempts to kick an opponent
  • trips or attempts to trip an opponent
  • jumps at an opponent
  • charges an opponent
  • strikes or attempts to strike an opponent
  • pushes an opponent
  • tackles an opponent
A direct free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player commits any of the following three offences:

  • holds an opponent
  • spits at an opponent
  • handles the ball deliberately (except for the goalkeeper within his own penalty area)
A direct free kick is taken from the place where the offence occurred (see Law 13 - Position of free kick).


Read more at http://www.thefa.com/football-rules...fouls-and-misconduct.aspx#03XXKprKAdebJQtX.99

No it doesn't.
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That's what you posted before :huh:
 
donga kloppo said:
I was just looking for the bit where 'reckless and careless' necessary has to endanger an opponent. Doesn't seem to be in there.
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That's because you are reading basic/bare rules. Refs are given full interpretations of each rule and it's wording. Ever wondered why they see things different to supporters? I used to know a ref (old division 2 and 3 only) and he once shown me the book/pamphlet of interpretations, it was over an inch thick. Find me the rule that says contact is a foul so you should go down to let the ref know.
 
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