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Cortese Return

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by jonny 'hasen' shuttle, Aug 1, 2017.

  1. ChilcoSaint

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    The proposition begs the question: who will supply the money if Cortese returns? He didn't put a penny of his own money into the club, and took a fairly hefty salary out of it as I recall. Markus wanted Southampton to be a family club run on sustainable principles, but once Cortese was in sole charge, those principles seemed to be shelved in favour of mounting debts and alienating club legends like Franny Benali and Matt Le Tiss. Yes, Cortese appointed 3 managers who did a great job of getting us back to the Premier League and keeping us there, but Katharina has put the club on a sound financial footing once again, restored the historical perspective, and now is looking to find a new source of funding to take the club forward.

    I find it baffling that anyone would want Cortese back!
     
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  2. It’s Only A Game

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    Jonny's warming up for the new season very nicely.
     
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  3. Beef

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    Also women aren't treated like objects
     
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  4. Saint Sosa

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    You're assuming that Nicola & Markus hadn't discussed the plans for the club and how much would be invested. Cortese was a money man and I'm sure he knew what he was doing. Sounds like Kat just didn't want to take the club where Markus & Nicola envisioned.

    But yeah, I have heard from people that he was a **** to work for.
     
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  5. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

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    Nicola was my man. I'd have him back like a shot. No one would take the piss out of us again.
     
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  6. Whiteley Saint

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    Yes there's no recent history to suggest money men don't always know what they are doing......Oh wait o_O
     
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  7. Saint Sosa

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    In a sense that Markus trusted him to manage his portfolio for many years. It was also Nicola's idea to invest in Saints, I'm very sure they worked together closely in regards to how the club would progress. With Markus' untimely death and Katharina taking over, it's not a stretch to believe that she wanted to scale back on investment into the club.
     
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  8. Whiteley Saint

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    There is also nothing to confirm that NC ran the club after Markus' death as Markus wanted it to be run. Sustainability was mentioned after the takeover by Markus. Maybe NC got carried away with the power and KL reined him back in when he started borrowing from dodgy lenders.
     
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  9. ----HistoryRepeating----

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    It wasn't his money, but without his influence we could have folded.
    The treatment of ex players was hard to swallow. But we must remember MLT was part of a RIVAL consortium.
    Markus dream for a family run club was beautiful in League One, but hard to imagine any higher up.

    Cortese was a leader of men. Anyone trying to tell me he was a bad person need not waste their time, he was exactly what we needed. The people trying to bury memories of him by painting him as some mad unpleasant megalomaniac, well they just sound like the bitter guy down the pub who lost the hot girt.... so they try running her down to all that will listen.
     
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  10. Libby

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    Nicola was the best person to get us up the leagues and don't think the current board would have had the same success.

    I'd also say the vice versa is true.
     
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  11. Saint Sosa

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    European football was also mentioned, sustainability was for the future. I'm very certain that Nicola was more privy to how Markus wanted the club run than Katharina and probably anyone else. You're speculating abut him getting carried away when there's nothing to suggest that.
     
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  12. jonny 'hasen' shuttle

    jonny 'hasen' shuttle Well-Known Member

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    Maybe I can help broker a deal beween Cortese & Liebherr?

    Only thing is I have no contacts whatsoever and I know **** all about this sort of thing
     
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  13. ----HistoryRepeating----

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    Sounds like Lander.........
     
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  14. Dell Boy

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    To be fair it wasn't just women he treated badly, it was everyone?
     
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  15. jonny 'hasen' shuttle

    jonny 'hasen' shuttle Well-Known Member

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    but didnt cortese sack pardew as he was disrepesptful to women (that were married to players)
     
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  16. ----HistoryRepeating----

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    Tony Fernandes, now there's a nice person. We'd be 100m in debt languishing in L1, but you lot would have your people hero! lol
     
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  17. fran-MLs little camera

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    I don't agree that Nicola was a leader of men...a leader gets people to follow him and back him up. I suspect that if Nicola went into the valley of death, the ones behind would just cheer. He saw our potential and got Markus involved....and at the beginning, he gave the club its spirit back. However, there are horses for courses....he wasn't necessarily the right man once we were passed the worst. The same way that managers get sacked despite what they achieved in the past. He sacked Nigel, so he should understand that. I'm not ignoring what he did, but the cracks were appearing.
     
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  18. ChilcoSaint

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    Spot on Fran.
     
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  19. ----HistoryRepeating----

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    He didn't get sacked, he walked because Kat wanted to limit his control. Who knows how he would have done these last four years. But assuming he would have done dreadful carries the same credence as assuming he would have done something wonderful.
     
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  20. ChilcoSaint

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    I agree with the last sentence, which essentially sums up the whole of this rather pointless thread!
     
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