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Stroller said:
Got my vaccination invite, but I'm not sure if I shouldn't wait a couple of weeks in my post-op weakened state.
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I suggest that you have a word with your consultant and/or GP. I have heard (anecdotally but first hand) that people who have already had COVID sometimes get a brief but strong reaction to their jab - 24 hours of temperature, aches. Speculation is that this is a good thing and the jab is in effect a booster, but probably not great if you are already feeling poorly.
 
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Totallyqpr said:
About ten years ago Sweden had an outbreak of swine fever. After the vaccinations a large group of mostly young people developed narcolepsia. Hundreads of lives ruined because it is incurable.
Not being a gloom merchant, but nothing is certain in life.
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A lot of nurses have suffered from narcolepsy as a result of having the swine flu vaccine according to Mrs SM....it'll be a while before we see the longer term effects of the Covid jab, but I'm sure there will be some who suffer in some way - but doubt it'll be in the numbers that are affected by either Covid or Long Covid
 
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Bring it on. Getting mine today. Accelerated a bit ie I'm one rung further up the ladder than I should be because of my 'extreme clinical vulnerability' which requires me to wrap up in cotton wool not go anywhere or do anything every day because that shields me.

My mother had a bad reaction to it. So she said. Now that it is my turn she is doing the typical parent's thing and down playing it saying that it's perfectly safe and of course she didn't have any reaction to it - who on earth told me it did. . It was something else entirely. It's as if she thinks I have doubts about it and need convincing.
It's a standing joke in my family that whenever she tells me to be careful and teaches me the dangerous facts of life that I can say "It's alright Mum. I'm a big boy now - 62 next birthday.." She does still see the funny side of that but not always.
 
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YorkshireHoopster said:
Bring it on. Getting mine today. Accelerated a bit ie I'm one rung further up the ladder than I should be because of my 'extreme clinical vulnerability' which requires me to wrap up in cotton wool not go anywhere or do anything every day because that shields me.

My mother had a bad reaction to it. So she said. Now that it is my turn she is doing the typical parent's thing and down playing it saying that it's perfectly safe and of course she didn't have any reaction to it - who on earth told me it did. . It was something else entirely. It's as if she thinks I have doubts about it and need convincing.
It's a standing joke in my family that whenever she tells me to be careful and teaches me the dangerous facts of life that I can say "It's alright Mum. I'm a big boy now - 62 next birthday.." She does still see the funny side of that but not always.
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Mum's always know what's best.
 
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Some figures from our little corner of Ireland.....

During January co Waterford recorded 3192 cases of covid, our total since the start of the pandemic is 4691so 68% of our total cases were last month, this in a county with a population of circa 44k. Our local hospital also recorded 40 deaths from covid in one week.....

As a country we've vaccinated 219200 doses roughly 4% of the population..... the UK variant accounts for roughly 65% of all cases at the moment....

Chances of lockdown easing in March appear slim....
 
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Tramore Ranger said:
Some figures from our little corner of Ireland.....

During January co Waterford recorded 3192 cases of covid, our total since the start of the pandemic is 4691so 68% of our total cases were last month, this in a county with a population of circa 44k. Our local hospital also recorded 40 deaths from covid in one week.....

As a country we've vaccinated 219200 doses roughly 4% of the population..... the UK variant accounts for roughly 65% of all cases at the moment....

Chances of lockdown easing in March appear slim....
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All the best mate.
 
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Tramore Ranger said:
Some figures from our little corner of Ireland.....

During January co Waterford recorded 3192 cases of covid, our total since the start of the pandemic is 4691so 68% of our total cases were last month, this in a county with a population of circa 44k. Our local hospital also recorded 40 deaths from covid in one week.....

As a country we've vaccinated 219200 doses roughly 4% of the population..... the UK variant accounts for roughly 65% of all cases at the moment....

Chances of lockdown easing in March appear slim....
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Sounds bad Tramore. Beautiful green countryside with many horses and trees as I remember it from a couple of visits decades ago. It's still not densely populated is it?
 
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Staines R's said:
Massive distrust from the black and Asian community apparently 9’s.
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Coronavirus doctor's diary: Why are some of Bradford's elderly refusing the vaccine?

Covid vaccinations have been administered at pace in Bradford, as in the rest of the UK. But data for December and January indicates a high level of refusal among those aged 80 or over in the Pakistani community. Dr John Wright of Bradford Royal Infirmary asks why, and considers the implications.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55952189
 
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Headline from Today's Irish Independent " Hundreds dodge UK travel ban via Dublin". Not going to post a link as it is a pay site.

Since the UK banned flights from the Middle East (Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Qatar) and Portugal, hundreds of travellers are flying direct from those places to Dublin and then catching flights on to UK destinations. We only have quarantine requirements for travellers from Brazil and South Africa. There are no travel restrictions between Ireland and UK as we have the Common Travel Area (CTA) - passports not required either. Obviously negative covid tests are required before entering Ireland. Staff in Dublin Airport are complaining that their safety is being put in jeopardy by these transfer passengers. The passengers are also avoiding quarantine measures when they arrive in the UK.
 
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finglasqpr said:
Headline from Today's Irish Independent " Hundreds dodge UK travel ban via Dublin". Not going to post a link as it is a pay site.

Since the UK banned flights from the Middle East (Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Qatar) and Portugal, hundreds of travellers are flying direct from those places to Dublin and then catching flights on to UK destinations. We only have quarantine requirements for travellers from Brazil and South Africa. There are no travel restrictions between Ireland and UK as we have the Common Travel Area (CTA) - passports not required either. Obviously negative covid tests are required before entering Ireland. Staff in Dublin Airport are complaining that their safety is being put in jeopardy by these transfer passengers. The passengers are also avoiding quarantine measures when they arrive in the UK.
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Another reason why we should close our borders completely and should have done so months ago.
 
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rangercol said:
Another reason why we should close our borders completely and should have done so months ago.
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Agreed, I'd imagine UK travellers are avoiding the travel ban by flying via lots of other places in Europe too, Amsterdam, Paris, Madrid, Frankfurt etc. The government there need to co-operate with other countries/airlines and obtain flight data on where people are booked to fly.

People here say the same thing that we should have closed all our airports and the border with the North.
 
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South Africa has put its roll-out of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine on hold after a study showed "disappointing" results against its new Covid variant.

Scientists say the strain accounts for 90% of new Covid cases in South Africa.

The study, involving around 2,000 people, found the vaccine offered "minimal protection" against mild and moderate cases of Covid-19.

South Africa has received 1m doses of the AstraZeneca jab and was due to start vaccinating people next week.

Speaking at an online news conference on Sunday, South African Health Minister Zweli Mkhize said his government would wait for further advice on how best to proceed with the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine in light of the findings. The trial was carried out by the University of the Witwatersrand but has not yet been peer reviewed.

In the meantime, he said, the government will offer vaccines produced by Johnson & Johnson and Pfizer in the coming weeks.


media captionThe WHO calls for vaccines should be shared with poorer countries to protect the vulnerable
"Unfortunately, the AstraZeneca vaccine does not work against mild and moderate illness," Prof Shabir Madhi, who led the study, told the briefing.

He said that the study had not been able to investigate the vaccine's efficacy in preventing more serious infections, as participants had an average age of 31 and so did not represent the demographic most at risk of severe symptoms from the virus.

Prof Sarah Gilbert, Oxford's lead vaccine developer, said vaccines should still protect against severe disease.

She said developers were likely to have a modified version of the injection against the South Africa variant, also known as 501.V2 or B.1.351, later this year.

Experts say vaccines could be redesigned and tweaked to be a better match for new variants in a matter of weeks or months if necessary.

Early results from Moderna suggest its vaccine is still effective against the South Africa variant, while AstraZeneca has said said its vaccine provides good protection against the UK variant first identified in the UK.


Early results suggest the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine protects against the new variants.
 
So is the Oxford vaccine quite ineffective against the South African strain and if so, are we back to square one till it can be tweaked?
 
rangercol said:
So is the Oxford vaccine quite ineffective against the South African strain and if so, are we back to square one till it can be tweaked?
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They are claiming that, though it doesn’t stop you getting mild or moderate symptoms, it is more effective at preventing serious illness/hospitalisations, which is well worth having.

The nature of the virus is that it will evolve and the vaccines have to be changed to keep up with it, bit like flu. We’ll all be getting a different version, or at least us old and vulnerable gits will, towards the end of the year. And then again next year, etc etc

Bit screwed if the virus mutates in serious ways more regularly than the scientists and manufacturers can cope with.
 
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kiwiqpr said:
Let's hope you are right
If mixing different vaccines is ok then maybe all the companies working on it should get together and just give us all one super vaccine
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I mix my drinks from time to time and look at me, l'm living proof, right?

Seriously though, l'd like a bit of water under the bridge before l dive in.
I'm fortunate here in Oz to be able to consider that choice.
 
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Why don't they just put in a mini microchip so we can see who's been vaccinated
Save a lot of money on easily copied paper passports
 
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