Seems my local area is top of the 70-74 jabs at present. They've just started a mass vaccine centre at Selhurst Park today which is two minutes away from my house so hopefully will get a invite in the next week or so... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...OUR-TIMES-higher-South-East-London-Devon.html
There is a history of drugs companies running trials in poorer countries (not just Africa but often there) with sometimes less than acceptable ethics around consent, design, safety, explanations, compensation (in the west most trial participants in early phase testing are paid - remember those people in Northwick Park a few years ago who had an horrendous reaction in a phase one trial?). These things happened through the collusion of local doctors and politicians, but that of course is no excuse. I think (but can’t guarantee) that this has now ended, certainly for all the big companies, but a few decades ago, definitely a thing. The memory runs deep, and is understandable. On the telly I’ve heard even black junior doctors say they are being suspicious of a vaccine invented so quickly, and wary because ‘we never get anything first - why this? Another experiment?’ In Muslim communities there is a lot of misinformation about jabs making people sterile, and not just for the virus, in Pakistan and elsewhere there are big issues about polio, to the extent that it’s one of the few places where the disease still exists. They think that it’s a plot by the west to wipe out Islam. Of course everything is magnified by social media, especially as many people seem more prepared to believe something they read there than what they see on telly or in the papers. The ‘anti vaxxers’ are a different thing altogether, sundry conspiracy theorists, nutters and paranoiacs who not only want to exercise their own ‘right’ not to be vaccinated (though happy to take the proxy protection given by the majority of the population doing the sensible thing) but also to try to bully, scare and intimidate others into following their example. I know you are supposed to be patient and engage with people like this because they are driven by fear with no reason, but frankly I can’t be arsed. The nasty, vindictive side of my character (about 83%) wants us to have vaccination passports just to wind these twats up. The positive is that most people of any background see the sense of getting jabbed.
Surely that does deserve congratulations - for once not awarding the job to their paymasters and friends. This truly shows that they do listen.
Jabbed with something you couldn't get past regulator's 12 months ago And you wonder why some might have issues
No, far from it. Schools for kids up to 16 are still open, although the head of any school can shut down or have home schooling where necessary. A few have taken this option. Gymnasium (colleges) are mostly working from home. All shops, gyms etc. have a limited amount allowed in. A sign on the door (1 per/10 square metre). Pubs and restuarants are not allowed to serve alcohol after 20.00. All indoor team sport activities were stopped until recently. Still only under 16s allowed to train indoors. All events with a crowd of more than 50 are not allowed. People in Sweden follow these recommendations very well. Quite a different mentality from the British one. I could return to work on Monday, but at the moment both me and the Mrs are coughing and sneezing and genarally being extremely snotty!
... also, you are not allowed into the country from Britain, Norway or Denmark without a very resent negative covid test.
We don't have it yet Tonight's headline on the news Was that you could mix and match vaccine's Lucky that I hope by the time it gets to me the desperate need to go to the pub in the uk hasn't led to deaths because of the rush to pass vaccines In the end we will all have no choice but to be injected with whatever is the favourite cheap vaccine No vaccine no job/travel/entertainment etc
Realistically what’s the worst that could happen? It might not turn out to be that effective. Can’t see a situation where people start dropping dead in the street or growing a second head.
You'll still have the choice. It's been rushed, but has still gone through the same rigourous tests as I understand it. The mixing of vaccines is suspected to be ok and possibly even more beneficial. However, this won't be known till the trials are complete. All good news so far as the vaccines are concerned thus far.
Let's hope you are right If mixing different vaccines is ok then maybe all the companies working on it should get together and just give us all one super vaccine
About ten years ago Sweden had an outbreak of swine fever. After the vaccinations a large group of mostly young people developed narcolepsia. Hundreads of lives ruined because it is incurable. Not being a gloom merchant, but nothing is certain in life.
It was everywhere Totally...and from it you can see the problems even in clinical trials 1 in 55,000 young adults ( so in UK there were about 15-20 cases) The problem was found in one subset of the population and in 1:50,000 injections...I can see mathematically why it was not picked up...no nothing is perfectly safe A new narcolepsy epidemic In 2010 there was a startling increase in narcolepsy across the UK and northern Europe. With new cases developing on a weekly basis, some doctors described it as an epidemic. Pandemrix to prevent swine flu During the Swine Flu epidemic of 2009/10 the vaccine Pandemrix was given to six million people in the UK, to high-risk groups, including children, with asthma, diabetes and heart disease. The vaccine had been approved by the European Medicines Agency for use across the EU, despite minimal clinical trials. The manufacturer, GlaxoSmithKline, was given an indemnity by the UK government. Some 850,000 vaccinations were given to children aged between 6 months and 16 years. After the pandemic, in 2010/11, a further 170,000 adults and children received the jab when seasonal flu vaccine supplies diminished. Pandemrix caused narcolepsy The UK Health Protection Agency (now Public Health England) undertook a major study of 4- to 18-year-olds and found that around one in every 55,000 jabs led to narcolepsy.
Got my vaccination invite, but I'm not sure if I shouldn't wait a couple of weeks in my post-op weakened state.
