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So you can't catch the virus from surfaces anymore?
All the cleaning of surfaces etc has been futile?
Yes of course you still can, Col. You know you can...

I was just giving an example. Don't be so picky. I was trying to help here

And both/ all variants are equally transmitted that way.... You pick them up on your fingers and touch your mouth or face or eyes....unless you have a cut on your hands ..I'm sure it can get in that way ..but your immune system might be able to look after you then... I hope.
 
So you can't catch the virus from surfaces anymore?
All the cleaning of surfaces etc has been futile?
I don’t think that is correct Col. I saw a news item a while back that demonstrated how the virus sits on surfaces... although they did say the main way to catch was mouth and nose.
 
Yes of course you still can, Col. You know you can...

I was just giving an example. Don't be so picky. I was trying to help here

And both/ all variants are equally transmitted that way.... You pick them up on your fingers and touch your mouth or face or eyes....unless you have a cut on your hands ..I'm sure it can get in that way ..but your immune system might be able to look after you then... I hope.

Sorry Beth. I really wasn't.

Listening to all the scientists etc on the news, they're convinced that this new variant will help spread the virus much, much quicker, which is why all of the UK and much of Europe are basically cancelling Christmas.
I'm a little stressed, as we were supposed to be visiting Mrs Rangercol's mum Christmas day, but that will mean driving in and out of a tier 4 area.
On the news tonight there were reports of police stopping people at the borders of tier 4.
I'm ****ed if I know what to do.
 
Sorry Beth. I really wasn't.

Listening to all the scientists etc on the news, they're convinced that this new variant will help spread the virus much, much quicker, which is why all of the UK and much of Europe are basically cancelling Christmas.
I'm a little stressed, as we were supposed to be visiting Mrs Rangercol's mum Christmas day, but that will mean driving in and out of a tier 4 area.
On the news tonight there were reports of police stopping people at the borders of tier 4.
I'm ****ed if I know what to do.
Sorry Col.

Do what you know to be right Col.

Stan has described seeing his mother. Both parties have isolated for this purpose...and when they meet ( assuming they are all well) they will be okay.

If you act intelligent it will be okay.

Over the last 10 months.
I have gone shopping to Tesco's once a week ( and have been very careful)
I have seen my daughter and granddaughter since June...once a week

Until I saw Terry and Iain at the football 2 weeks ago ...I had not seen or been with anyone else for more than a fleeting second


I am not seeing anyone for next two weeks ( except hubbie of course).
In 2 weeks time ( assuming I am well...which I will be) I will start looking after my granddaughter again.. so her mum can go back to studying.
 
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Sorry Beth. I really wasn't.

Listening to all the scientists etc on the news, they're convinced that this new variant will help spread the virus much, much quicker, which is why all of the UK and much of Europe are basically cancelling Christmas.
I'm a little stressed, as we were supposed to be visiting Mrs Rangercol's mum Christmas day, but that will mean driving in and out of a tier 4 area.
On the news tonight there were reports of police stopping people at the borders of tier 4.
I'm ****ed if I know what to do.
Nightmare position mate. Just heard 35k new infections today.

It’s a very fluid situation, but constantly getting worse. Now thinking we won’t know for sure until Christmas Eve what we are going to do.
 
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Sorry Col.

Do what you know to be right Col.

Stan has described seeing his mother. Both parties have isolated for this purpose...and when they meet ( assuming they are all well) they will be okay.

If you act intelligent it will be okay.

Over the last 10 months.
I have gone shopping to Tesco's once a week ( and have been very careful)
I have seen my daughter and granddaughter since June...once a week

Until I saw Terry and Iain at the football 2 weeks ago ...I had not seen or been with anyone else for more than a fleeting second


I am not seeing anyone for next two weeks ( except hubbie of course).
In 2 weeks time ( assuming I am well...which I will be) I will start looking after my granddaughter again.. so her mum can go back to studying.
Any sign of Simon?

We have an interesting decision to make as a society. It’s expensive to run a health service aimed at the whole population which has the capacity to cope with something like this pandemic. But is that expense worth it given the economic grief we have seen and will see for several years because we have had to ‘protect the NHS’ and shut everything down. In other words do we build a health service which runs well below capacity (the target now is 85%, probably shift down to 70% or less) to cope with these high tides, a health service which will be stunningly expensive and inefficient?

I vote yes. And set controls so that governments don’t raid the NHS in cost cutting exercises.
 
If there is a risk is it really worth taking it it's your mum though so it is a hard one

It's Mrs Rangercol's mum, but still difficult, as she's not been well and feeling very down.
We originally thought she'd be alone Christmas day which would definitely have meant going and bollocks to it.
It now seems that her partner will be there too, so I reckon we won't go, as infecting them would be calamitous and very stupid on our part.
 
Any sign of Simon?QUOTE]

Simon is okay.
He did not renew his season, but will probably renew next year.. we chat most match days...and he tells me how much he hates Cameron and on the whole I agree.
He writes often for AKUTRs or for Loft for Words. He should have a piece out soon in Gordon Jago, one of his all time heroes.
A long but brilliantly written piece.
I will try and post it in here when it is out.

No Simon is good...as are Terry and Iain.

Big Jon on the other hand got Covid and had a stroke or a heart attack on the back of it

I understand he is recovering...and posts occasionally only LFW or report..


Chris Big Jon's friend I haven't seen since February...
I miss the top of the lift crew a lot

Any one remember "10 ton of hoops" who had Tourettes?
 
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I’ll be back at the top of the Loft if there is space for me, I’ll qualify for the oldie discount soon!

Bad news about Big Jon, he was not having a very good time way before this I seem to remember. I remember the bloke he dubbed Charles Hawtry.......I’ll drop Simon a text.
 
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Sorry Col.

Do what you know to be right Col.

Stan has described seeing his mother. Both parties have isolated for this purpose...and when they meet ( assuming they are all well) they will be okay.

If you act intelligent it will be okay.

Over the last 10 months.
I have gone shopping to Tesco's once a week ( and have been very careful)
I have seen my daughter and granddaughter since June...once a week

Until I saw Terry and Iain at the football 2 weeks ago ...I had not seen or been with anyone else for more than a fleeting second


I am not seeing anyone for next two weeks ( except hubbie of course).
In 2 weeks time ( assuming I am well...which I will be) I will start looking after my granddaughter again.. so her mum can go back to studying.

Unfortunately we can't quarantine ourselves in the same way.
Mrs Rangercol is working in a pre-school Tues and Wed and taking her daughter to the same place on those days, as they only have one car.

If her mum was alone as originally planned we'd have to go.
Now I don't think we will (or should).
Her Mum is going to be devastated though as she thinks it could well be her last Christmas with us, although there could easily be many more.
It's an awful situation.
 
Unfortunately we can't quarantine ourselves in the same way.
Mrs Rangercol is working in a pre-school Tues and Wed and taking her daughter to the same place on those days, as they only have one car.

If her mum was alone as originally planned we'd have to go.
Now I don't think we will (or should).
Her Mum is going to be devastated though as she thinks it could well be her last Christmas with us, although there could easily be many more.
It's an awful situation.
It is an awful situation. Each one of us needs to get through it the best we can...and do the best by our family...

All with out prejudicing the community ats a whole. A fine juggling act.

All anyone can ask is to do our best
 
Unfortunately we can't quarantine ourselves in the same way.
Mrs Rangercol is working in a pre-school Tues and Wed and taking her daughter to the same place on those days, as they only have one car.

If her mum was alone as originally planned we'd have to go.
Now I don't think we will (or should).
Her Mum is going to be devastated though as she thinks it could well be her last Christmas with us, although there could easily be many more.
It's an awful situation.

Mate, it's a ****fest.

You can only do what you think is right, and rely on others to do the same (which is where it all falls down unfortunately).

You could go see her and everything be cool - but by taking that risk the consequences could be devastating. We're lucky in a way as our vulnerable parents both have their partners still with them so they won't be alone, which has made the decision a whole lot easier.

You won't be alone in having to make these choices, but that doesn't make it any easier.
 
So not only has most EU countries imposed restrictions on U.K. Travellers, which is probably a good thing but the French has banned freight for 48hrs? mmm