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rangercol said:
Not sure I understand.

You get what you want as you go in one direction, surely?
If you do miss something, then by all means, as safely as possible, go back quickly and get it.

Honestly mate, I think this is just another example of making a problem out of the guidelines for the sake of it or not liking being told to do it.
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Of course I’m being pedantic Col...that’s me.
What I’m saying is that if I’m going down the middle bit of the supermarket.....and what I want is a few yards into the aisle that’s marked the opposite way......doesn’t it defeat the point to make me go all the way round the next aisle to go up that aisle to get my bag of crisps ?

It’s all a bit bizarre......
 
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Staines R's said:
Of course I’m being pedantic Col...that’s me.
What I’m saying is that if I’m going down the middle bit of the supermarket.....and what I want is a few yards into the aisle that’s marked the opposite way......doesn’t it defeat the point to make me go all the way round the next aisle to go up that aisle to get my bag of crisps ?

It’s all a bit bizarre......
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Think of all the extra steps.
 
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ELLERS said:
Sadly people can't answer that question Col. It will be the same old stuff. Wait until it's over and we get the full facts... then we can all make a proper decision until then all this stuff is meaningless.
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Jesus. No criticism or examination until it’s over, when we can add up the unnecessary death toll/ economic self harm? And then blame.....who?

Questions need to be asked, different ideas put forward, errors pointed out and corrected every second of every day to reduce deaths and the long term damage to everyone’s lives, especially those already disadvantaged due to poverty. Other places seem to be doing better than us. Let’s copy them.
 
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qprbeth said:
ari

Yes there are promising signs....but hey .....Ellers its the 18th April, 15,000 people at least have died in this country alone.
I am very pleased that there promising signs... but even you would have hoped they would have come a month earlier
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It's bloody sad every time I see those figures. I know of 6 people that have died from this and 2 in ICU (although one is out and doing well). I see my Mr's preparing to help many people at their lowest points. people who have just lost a loved one (maybe hours earlier) so she can help them through a traumatic thing. (That was organised by the government).
This thing is affecting us all. But rather complain and bitch about the government every day I will act like Capt Moore or my amasing nurse friend and also Mrs Ellers, who just get on with it.
 
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ELLERS said:
It's bloody sad every time I see those figures. I know of 6 people that have died from this and 2 in ICU (although one is out and doing well). I see my Mr's preparing to help many people at their lowest points. people who have just lost a loved one (maybe hours earlier) so she can help them through a traumatic thing. (That was organised by the government).
This thing is affecting us all. But rather complain and bitch about the government every day I will act like Capt Moore or my amasing nurse friend and also Mrs Ellers, who just get on with it.
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sb_73 said:
Jesus. No criticism or examination until it’s over, when we can add up the unnecessary death toll/ economic self harm? And then blame.....who?

Questions need to be asked, different ideas put forward, errors pointed out and corrected every second of every day to reduce deaths and the long term damage to everyone’s lives, especially those already disadvantaged due to poverty. Other places seem to be doing better than us. Let’s copy them.
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No none of that thank you until after the inquiry. Cheerleading is fine and patriotic but none of that stating the obvious stuff.
 
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qprbeth said:
Col, we have made a lot of mistakes. I accept no one knew what this was going to be like, but I anger is more in making mistakes not admitting to them and then making them again
Right
1. Holding of for herd immunity rather than going for lockdown, when it was fairly obvious that the virus had escaped from China
2. Not going for total lockdown
3. Not closing our borders...which we have not done yet
4. Not talking to the EU about central procurment plans
5. Not speaking with the right experts about ventilators.
6. Not being aware of the requirements for ventilators FOR covid patients
7. Making a song and dance about the Dyson contract
8, Claiming we have enough PPE
9. Then saying we have not got enough
10. Claiming it is a problem in the distribution metwork
11. Telling people to reuse single use PPE
12. Claiming we have more tests than we have
13. Saying we will do 100,000 tests a day (yes we have a few more days left on that one...but we are not yet up to 20k)
14. Not testing frontline workers until April
15. Not telling us the truth about death rates
16. still not telling us how many are dying in care home
17. Not telling us how many are dying in community.
18. Having no exit plan
19. Lying about setting up a vaccine centre when it was already set up.
20. Taking so long to set up the economic relief, which is still not being fully implemented by the banks

That is 20...can I go and have tea now, I think I have a few more grievances but I am being called
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Thanks.
Wanted to hear it from someone who knows what they're talking about rather than no nothing journalists or people on hear (not everyone) guessing.

Most of the points you raise I had pretty much sussed out.
I'm still not sure what has caused these mistakes.
I'm guessing that a lot of it is down to politicians not being able to stop being political.
How much is down to wrong advice from medical experts and scientists?
Have they ignored most of that advice or followed it?

I'm genuinely not sure exactly how and more importantly why we are where we are.

Having said all that, it still seems as though there's so much conflicting information.
So many are dying we're told, yet the new emergency hospitals are nearly empty.

I genuinely find it hard to know just exactly what is happening and one day I think the lockdown is an over reaction and will cost many more lives in the future and the next I think it's the right thing to do.
 
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rangercol said:
Thanks.
Wanted to hear it from someone who knows what they're talking about rather than no nothing journalists or people on hear (not everyone) guessing.

Most of the points you raise I had pretty much sussed out.
I'm still not sure what has caused these mistakes.
I'm guessing that a lot of it is down to politicians not being able to stop being political.
How much is down to wrong advice from medical experts and scientists?
Have they ignored most of that advice or followed it?

I'm genuinely not sure exactly how and more importantly why we are where we are.

Having said all that, it still seems as though there's so much conflicting information.
So many are dying we're told, yet the new emergency hospitals are nearly empty.

I genuinely find it hard to know just exactly what is happening and one day I think the lockdown is an over reaction and will cost many more lives in the future and the next I think it's the right thing to do.
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I think the civil service has been very poor as well, it’s really their job firstly to stop politicians promising the undeliverable and secondly to deliver what is promised. I think they have failed on both.

I’m similarly stuck on what is the best strategy, but surely criticism, hopefully constructive, shouldn’t be feared by anyone genuinely trying their best?
 
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Staines R's said:
Of course I’m being pedantic Col...that’s me.
What I’m saying is that if I’m going down the middle bit of the supermarket.....and what I want is a few yards into the aisle that’s marked the opposite way......doesn’t it defeat the point to make me go all the way round the next aisle to go up that aisle to get my bag of crisps ?

It’s all a bit bizarre......
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I honestly don't understand mate.
 
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sb_73 said:
I think the civil service has been very poor as well, it’s really their job firstly to stop politicians promising the undeliverable and secondly to deliver what is promised. I think they have failed on both.

I’m similarly stuck on what is the best strategy, but surely criticism, hopefully constructive, shouldn’t be feared by anyone genuinely trying their best?
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I'm not a fan of the civil service, so we're very much in agreement.

It's absolutely right to question what's going on and what mistakes are being made.

I do question whether it's down to the colour of the government and more likely a whole range of reasons for mistakes being made.

I also think the government has done quite well at times under huge pressure and that things have become noticebly worse since Boris disappeared.
 
sb_73 said:
Jesus. No criticism or examination until it’s over, when we can add up the unnecessary death toll/ economic self harm? And then blame.....who?

Questions need to be asked, different ideas put forward, errors pointed out and corrected every second of every day to reduce deaths and the long term damage to everyone’s lives, especially those already disadvantaged due to poverty. Other places seem to be doing better than us. Let’s copy them.
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Copy who Sb?
 
ELLERS said:
Copy who Sb?
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Germany, South Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore, Denmark......whoever has a lower death rate per million than us with a relatively transparent society ie we can trust the data deserves being looked at. Austria, Portugal, Norway, Australia, New Zealand......might be too late of course.

I think I have answered your question.
 
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sb_73 said:
Germany, South Korea, Hong Kong, Singapore, Denmark......whoever has a lower death rate per million than us with a relatively transparent society ie we can trust the data deserves being looked at. Austria, Portugal, Norway, Australia, New Zealand......might be too late of course.
I think I have answered your question.
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oh crap you had to come back that quickly Ii will respond to this tomorrow as it is a good question. :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
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