Off Topic Coronavirus

[Quite Possibly Raving]

we have no accurate way of measuring the real number of new infections a day. We are only testing people ill enough to go to hospital, a tiny fraction of infections. Death rate are the only reliable measure I think.

Must confess that between childcare and the day job I've not actually had any time to properly read up on all of this, but if the protocol for actually getting tested stays the same, wouldn't number of new infections still be a valid indicator, despite not truly reflecting the actual number of cases? Will defer to you on this one however, as I really haven't properly read up on it. Other half is 'on the front line' as a doctor so I'm suddenly juggling a small person and the day job.

 

[Stroller]

This side of the argument seems to be getting no traction, or even a hearing, anywhere other than the White House. It’s a shame because it is the real decision. To be honest I was sort of on this side to begin with, until I realised that if we let this rip the additional death toll might be enormous, and that the instant and total collapse of our health services (still a possibility) would be shattering.

Personally I suspect that the measures are mainly about avoiding the political disaster of a collapsed NHS rather than saving the vulnerable, and that they have calculated that we let the establishment get away with the entirely last financial crash which they were completely responsible for, so they are probably Thinking we’ll let them off with another ten years of misery for a rather better reason.

But will we?

The political landscape once we're over this crisis will be fascinating. Massive approval for Johnson at the moment, which is understandable, but I wonder what will happen when it's all over? Maybe Johnson, the 'wartime' PM, will get what his hero got in 1945 and people will again look for a more socialised economy.

 

[SARQPR]

Petrol 102.7p / litre at Morrison's in central Aberdeen on Monday

 

[Steelmonkey]

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[SARQPR]

Two more days working from my AirBnB in Aberdeen before I drive back to Herts

After only a few days being on my own since the office closed I can't wait to get home and have some human company

Makes me think even more about those many people who could have weeks with only the TV as company

 

[Stroller]

And did it work?

Hard to say really. I have had less colds, but that may be more to do with now having annual flu jabs than the hand washing advice, which I didn't really follow as assiduously as I should have. Come to think of it, I had my first bad cold for ages about three weeks ago - sore throat, cough, but no fever. Who knows if this might have been a mild dose of Covid-19? The sooner the antibody tests are available, the better.

 

[SARQPR]

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Let's hope that is a massive waste of money and never used

 

[Steelmonkey]

Let's hope that is a massive waste of money and never used

Don't worry pal, they can do that with the P&J up where you are.....

 

[sb_73]

Must confess that between childcare and the day job I've not actually had any time to properly read up on all of this, but if the protocol for actually getting tested stays the same, wouldn't number of new infections still be a valid indicator, despite not truly reflecting the actual number of cases? Will defer to you on this one however, as I really haven't properly read up on it. Other half is 'on the front line' as a doctor so I'm suddenly juggling a small person and the day job.

Enjoy the family time! I might well be wrong but that’s the impression I get. The stats seem all over the place, the UK is reporting only 135 people ‘recovered’ from the virus, while Germany has thousands.

The political landscape once we're over this crisis will be fascinating. Massive approval for Johnson at the moment, which is understandable, but I wonder what will happen when it's all over? Maybe Johnson, the 'wartime' PM, will get what his hero got in 1945 and people will again look for a more socialised economy.

Death toll + recession = revolution

Perhaps not.

 

[Staines R's]

Am I being paranoid in wondering why they haven’t yet announced the number of deaths today in England ?

 

[Stroller]

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Death toll + recession = revolution

Perhaps not.

Not revolution, but people may come to realise which organisations, services and people are really important in this country.

 

[Sooperhoop]

Am I being paranoid in wondering why they haven’t yet announced the number of deaths today in England ?

Still counting, usually 20% rise per day...

 

[Ranger4ever]

i'd like to think that Trumps speech saying it will all be over by Easter was just a speech to give people a little hope to hold onto.

I also hope that Boris (let's face it, whether you like him or Tories or not) hasn't had an easy start. If he can provide enough to everyone during this crisis to keep people in their homes with food in their stomachs then they will probably repay by helping make this country Great again

Keep safe everyone

Trump will end up killing scores of people in the US.
The guy is only doing things that make him look good. He has no ability to predict that by Easter it will all be over, least of all because he's a twat not very intelligent. He is a bloody good liar.

 

[Staines R's]

Still counting, usually 20% rise per day...

So likely to be over 100 ?
Thought it was usually announced about 4pm

 

[sb_73]

So likely to be over 100 ?
Thought it was usually announced about 4pm

Think it’s around 40 - 13 Scotland and Wales, 28England.

Sadly misleading as to the trend.

 

[Staines R's]

Think it’s around 40 - 13 Scotland and Wales, 28England.

Sadly misleading as to the trend.

Im clinging on to good news that the figure is low

 

[Sooperhoop]

UK total 43, half yesterday's. 465 in all, certainly better than expected...

 

[ELLERS]

I dont want to use the word ‘only’ but 28 today in England is encouraging. When i checked the Italian stats from 7th v ours i thought there would be many more. Fortunately it is actually a lower figure.
We need those test kits now so we can sed who has had it and immune.

 

[kiwiqpr]

This side of the argument seems to be getting no traction, or even a hearing, anywhere other than the White House. It’s a shame because it is the real decision. To be honest I was sort of on this side to begin with, until I realised that if we let this rip the additional death toll might be enormous, and that the instant and total collapse of our health services (still a possibility) would be shattering.

Personally I suspect that the measures are mainly about avoiding the political disaster of a collapsed NHS rather than saving the vulnerable, and that they have calculated that we let the establishment get away with the last financial crash which they were completely responsible for, so they are probably thinking we’ll let them off with another ten years of misery for a rather better reason.

But will we?

we have no accurate way of measuring the real number of new infections a day. We are only testing people ill enough to go to hospital, a tiny fraction of infections. Death rate are the only reliable measure I think.

If you really think the lockdown is about avoiding the political disaster of a collapsed nhs why is the rest of the world going in too

 

[bobmid]

My mrs is showing symptoms which is really really worrying. She's not had any contact with anyone but i was working up until last Friday in an empty house with no contact. Driving in my van, I did fill up once on the Wednesday but wore the glove and sanitized my hands. I think if you are going to get it then you're going to get it, just depends on how serious it becomes for each individual. Will keep you posted.