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I’m going to try to learn today how to link from Facebook onto here, but information I have received from a self employed group is that there is a number to phone regarding payment for self employed and it appears we will get 80% of our income based on last 3 or 2 years income, as soon as I can confirm or not I will try to post links on here for all us self employed, although have heard the queuing on phone is horrendously long, so might be worth a wait before dialling.
Number is as follows 0800 159 559.
This was passed to me by a self employed taxi driving mate in Portsmouth last night.
Nice one mate.
 
The man who intervened was none other than the notorious TOMMY ROBINSON apparently, no mention however of his “good deed” in the mainstream media or the police communique, but I imagine in the unfair world of mainstream news his court appearance next month for assaulting a man who sexually abused his 8 yr old daughter will be front page news again ‘cause he’s a racist.
Found it here if anyone is interested.
https://www.tr.news/tommy-robinson-stops-coronavirus-attack-in-the-uk/
 
debateable about being more productive from home. I think a lot of people will be taking the piss from home, myself included. Not just that, but most desk jobs people have 2 or 3 screens. Just the 1 screen at home and that certainly hinders productivity, alongside poor internet. Just my imo
Sounds like you are getting your excuses in early.

In current circumstances most jobs, especially those requiring 3 screens, don’t actually need to be done.
 
Sounds like you are getting your excuses in early.

In current circumstances most jobs, especially those requiring 3 screens, don’t actually need to be done.

oh, it's not an excuse. It's human nature. People will naturally, be doing other things at home whether they be house chores or just through pure laziness (i'm the latter, i've just gotten too comfortable and unmotivated). I will still get my work done but i know for someone who looks at multiple spreadsheets, having 1 screen is a definite hindrance compared to two.

I'm just saying, i actually think productivity is less at home and i know for a fact a couple of my colleagues are extreme and take the piss
 
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Nice to see Gove take the wind out of the sails of that fat wannabe-Geordie **** Mike Ashley, who was planning to keep his stores open as they supply "essential keep fit equipment", and has now been forced to back down and shut them all.
 
Nice to see Gove take the wind out of the sails of that fat wannabe-Geordie **** Mike Ashley, who was planning to keep his stores open as they supply "essential keep fit equipment", and has now been forced to back down and shut them all.
Even nicer to hear him say that construction sites can stay open as long as they practice 2 m social distancing.

So Woody and Col and my sons are not being told they can’t work, and Bob has the choice. Good.
 
Even nicer to hear him say that construction sites can stay open as long as they practice 2 m social distancing.

So Woody and Col and my sons are not being told they can’t work, and Bob has the choice. Good.
Cant see that even lasting for too much longer to be honest. Very mixed messages from the government and similar to those messages before. Who is libel if a contract isn't completed on time etc
 
oh, it's not an excuse. It's human nature. People will naturally, be doing other things at home whether they be house chores or just through pure laziness (i'm the latter, i've just gotten too comfortable and unmotivated). I will still get my work done but i know for someone who looks at multiple spreadsheets, having 1 screen is a definite hindrance compared to two.

I'm just saying, i actually think productivity is less at home and i know for a fact a couple of my colleagues are extreme and take the piss
Sorry Bobby, are you a social psychologist? I find the ‘it’s human nature’ argument a handy get out for cynicism and a justification for personal behaviour. Are the idiots ignoring social distancing and hoarding typical of ‘human nature’ or are the many going out of their way to help those more vulnerable than themselves? One size fits all arguments don’t work.

So you may well represent a section of the workforce who see this as an excuse to draw a wage for as little as possible because their boss isn’t looking over their shoulder and basically because they don’t like their jobs. Fair enough. Others will try really hard to make it work, and will find it difficult because they don’t realise how much of a social experience working in an office is. Then some of them will realise that without the social distractions of the office they can get their work done more quickly and efficiently, ie do their job and have time to play around/do the laundry whatever. And efficient companies will eventually realise that the people taking the piss weren’t actually adding any value anyway and can be safely got rid of. Fortunately many companies aren’t that efficient because they are run by ****wits, so many useless and disliked jobs will be safe.
Still too many grey areas. I'm not an essential worker (far from it), but yesterday's statement left it open to me to go to work 'if it is absolutely necessary and can't be done from home'. My work is not 'absolutely necessary' in a wider sense, but my employers would likely consider it to be so. Based on this, I will continue to go in once a fortnight to do the 10% of my job that can't be done from home. This will involve me using the tube though, and Sadiq Khan is saying this morning that this should be reserved for essential workers.
Use your common sense Strolls. Surely a man of your wisdom and experience doesn’t need to be told to do things, least of all by Boris Johnson? What do you think is the right course of action?
 
Just seen the pictures on the news. Nothing short of ridiculous. We will never halt the spread with actions like this and it will just drag it all out for longer and longer

They don't care, Bob. For them, it's a risk of getting a spell of something like flu. If they pass it to someone vulnerable, tough.
 
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Sorry Bobby, are you a social psychologist? I find the ‘it’s human nature’ argument a handy get out for cynicism and a justification for personal behaviour. Are the idiots ignoring social distancing and hoarding typical of ‘human nature’ or are the many going out of their way to help those more vulnerable than themselves? One size fits all arguments don’t work.

So you may well represent a section of the workforce who see this as an excuse to draw a wage for as little as possible because their boss isn’t looking over their shoulder and basically because they don’t like their jobs. Fair enough. Others will try really hard to make it work, and will find it difficult because they don’t realise how much of a social experience working in an office is. Then some of them will realise that without the social distractions of the office they can get their work done more quickly and efficiently, ie do their job and have time to play around/do the laundry whatever. And efficient companies will eventually realise that the people taking the piss weren’t actually adding any value anyway and can be safely got rid of. Fortunately many companies aren’t that efficient because they are run by ****wits, so many useless and disliked jobs will be safe.

Use your common sense Strolls. Surely a man of your wisdom and experience doesn’t need to be told to do things, least of all by Boris Johnson? What do you think is the right course of action?

That is true i agree with this.

Maybe human nature is the wrong phrase but just like, murderers, addicts, racists, good people, bad people and the whole spectrum, there will be people all over the spectrum.

I think that people who are socially distracted at work will be just as distracted at home. Obviously we have no metric to quantify both so i guess this will just be a debate we have. I just personally feel that on the whole, people get less work done at home and thats through personal experience of myself and speaking to my colleagues.
 
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Use your common sense Strolls. Surely a man of your wisdom and experience doesn’t need to be told to do things, least of all by Boris Johnson? What do you think is the right course of action?

Yes, my post wasn't really about my own situation, more to illustrate the confused and contradictory nature of the advice/instructions.

I certainly wouldn't get on a crowded tube train, but, based on my experience of yesterday, I could go to work outside of rush hours without endangering myself or anybody else.
 
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