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I don't hold sway with those who spout incredibly hurtful and personal comments aimed to offend and try palm it off as banter, but anyone with an ounce of common sense can usually tell the difference.
ours is all in the right spirit give it = take it, a couple pints with pie/roll/or dish of pasta/***gots or pasty ends of a superb 2-3 hours!
 
old sparky
Funnily enough, just been looking at a Kuga... In red sadly though and a miserly 1.5 litre engine.
Sounds a bit like Bristol City FC to me......<laugh>
next door just got a fiat 600 in blue, cant make up my mind whether Cardiff City FC or The minimal blue!
 
Anti-statue campaigners have sparked outrage by calling for the public to boycott Thatchers - claiming it has links to slavery.

The Bristol-based pressure group has asked people not to drink the apple-based booze.
Countering Colston works to condemn the legacy of slave-trader Edward Colston whose statue was toppled in June 2020.
The 'Countering Colston' campaign wants Colston's name removed from road names, buildings and statues.

But they have now been branded ''heartless b****rds' after they called for a boycott - on Thatchers cider. They have launched a campaign ''Don't Buy Thatchers''.
In a recent Tweet, they wrote: “Martin Thatcher, director of the company, is a member of the Society of the Merchant Venturers.

“The SMV has deep roots in the historical slave trade in Bristol, and its members were responsible for the suffering and death of tens of thousands of human beings.
various replies to tweets totally condemn the CC individuals........

###''Maybe this is evidence that their campaign has run it's course (sic), now having to target innocent persons who had nothing to do with those in history that they find offensive in society. Pathetic.''
###Wayne posted: ''I’m gonna buy a sh*t load of Thatchers today!
### ''I think Thatchers Cider can easily ride out some pathetic campaign by a group of anti-British, law breaking, unwashed snowflakes.
###''The best solution for them is to just move out the city if they don't like it. ''Better still, move out the UK altogether and see how they get on in a different country. Don't need them and fed up hearing about them.''
### "Grow up build a bridge and move on and stop living in the past FFS''.
###''In that case then surely they shouldn't have sugar (slaves worked there), cotton (especially any from China as that has modern slaves), coffee the list goes on.

Start digging into what merchant venturers encompassed over the past 5-600years and we have very little left should we ban all the things they had a finger in the pie on ... tobacco...sugar ..coffee ... potato's ... cotton ... sugar ... history and evolution!
 
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Anti-statue campaigners have sparked outrage by calling for the public to boycott Thatchers - claiming it has links to slavery.

The Bristol-based pressure group has asked people not to drink the apple-based booze.
Countering Colston works to condemn the legacy of slave-trader Edward Colston whose statue was toppled in June 2020.
The 'Countering Colston' campaign wants Colston's name removed from road names, buildings and statues.

But they have now been branded ''heartless b****rds' after they called for a boycott - on Thatchers cider. They have launched a campaign ''Don't Buy Thatchers''.
In a recent Tweet, they wrote: “Martin Thatcher, director of the company, is a member of the Society of the Merchant Venturers.

“The SMV has deep roots in the historical slave trade in Bristol, and its members were responsible for the suffering and death of tens of thousands of human beings.
various replies to tweets totally condemn the CC individuals........

###''Maybe this is evidence that their campaign has run it's course (sic), now having to target innocent persons who had nothing to do with those in history that they find offensive in society. Pathetic.''
###Wayne posted: ''I’m gonna buy a sh*t load of Thatchers today!
### ''I think Thatchers Cider can easily ride out some pathetic campaign by a group of anti-British, law breaking, unwashed snowflakes.
###''The best solution for them is to just move out the city if they don't like it. ''Better still, move out the UK altogether and see how they get on in a different country. Don't need them and fed up hearing about them.''
### "Grow up build a bridge and move on and stop living in the past FFS''.
###''In that case then surely they shouldn't have sugar (slaves worked there), cotton (especially any from China as that has modern slaves), coffee the list goes on.

Start digging into what merchant venturers encompassed over the past 5-600years and we have very little left should we ban all the things they had a finger in the pie on ... tobacco...sugar ..coffee ... potato's ... cotton ... sugar ... history and evolution!
Well that The Bristol-based pressure group can go **** themselves, my fridge is and will be stocked up with Haze, Gold and Rascal
 
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I think that most, if not all, supposed protests against this and that are being hijacked by serial/professional trouble makers who will do anything to disturb our peace. The truck protest we have been enduring right across Canada is believed to have a heavy American content that has been encouraged by a certain despicable politician and the yahoos who follow him. I believe in everyone's right to protest against something they believe to not be right but now it seems that the super gluing folks are the moderates when you consider the strong possibility of extreme violence when you factor in the mercenaries who feel they have the right to get involved in situations in which they have no interest other than hurting someone.
 
SMV [ Society of Merchant Venturers ] established in the 13th century [12??] and are and were a non profitable organisation.

Has Countering Colston actually got anything right? Well...lets try dates and figures
Lets say a [ SMV ] A GUILD OF MERCHANTS were started in 1275! [sometime in 13th century]
They supported all sorts of projects from their funds to help and aid projects around and in Bristol [ Bear in mind slaving was around 1620 onwards about 300 years into future ]
1442 THE SMV was started from what went before as a charitable organization

Around 1495 on arrival in England, Cabot went to Bristol, a major maritime centre, to seek financial backers.[20] This was the only English city to have had a history of undertaking exploratory expeditions into the Atlantic. Cabot's royal patent, issued by the Crown in 1496, stated that all expeditions should be undertaken from Bristol, so his primary financial supporters were probably based in that city. In any case, it also stipulated that the commerce resulting from any discoveries must be conducted with England alone, with goods only being brought in through Bristol.[21] This would have made Bristol into a monopoly port, with sole right to engage in colonial trade. In stating this, Henry VII of England was presumably influenced by Iberian practices: His ship was the MATHEW.[ I have a piece of the repro in my garage, I did some help on it! ] Cabot 1497 was still 100 years off the slave trade.
SDV continued their charitable work throughout the period [ 1662 - 1806 ] IN 1683 EC became a SMV, [3 years after East Africa Co involvement ] in the period 1680- 1692 around 84,000 slaves were traded . from 1692 to 1708 he continued with his other businesses making large donations to charities so not 100's of 000's . SMV were his trustee operatives
temple mead/GWR/ SUSPENSION BRIDGE/ HOSPITALS /SCHOOLS AND A HOST OF HOMES FOR DESTITUTE AND POOR/ OLD HAVE AND ARE STILL SUPPORTED. BRISTOL grew on the trade of sugar and tobacco indigo/ cocoa etc as the members of SDV built the infrastructures needed to evolve and expand.
EC 1 man out of thousands held to account for 300 years of slavery ...
 
The hypocrisy of these ****wits is mind blowing.

If they are hell bent on boycotting all things to do with slavery, they should take a long look at their favourite rag the sainted Guardian.

Started and owned by a rich northern mill owner in 1821. The UK banned slavery in 1833 and he used his rag as his mouthpiece to promote slavery in the USA and slag off Abraham Lincoln's fight to abolish slavery, the USA the country where his slave trade cotton came from for his mills.

Boycott it all or boycott f*** all, not keep the bits they are happy to turn a blind eye to.

These people are just new world fascists trying to impose their will on everybody.
 
The hypocrisy of these ****wits is mind blowing.

If they are hell bent on boycotting all things to do with slavery, they should take a long look at their favourite rag the sainted Guardian.

Started and owned by a rich northern mill owner in 1821. The UK banned slavery in 1833 and he used his rag as his mouthpiece to promote slavery in the USA and slag off Abraham Lincoln's fight to abolish slavery, the USA the country where his slave trade cotton came from for his mills.

Boycott it all or boycott f*** all, not keep the bits they are happy to turn a blind eye to.

These people are just new world fascists trying to impose their will on everybody.

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The profit margins on slavery were very small as low as 5% and EC 's involvement for such a short time [estimated that whilst he was involved . with others were 84,000 ] He appeared on the scene with a massive fortune, and continued afterwards making even more both not connected to slaves.
The SMV made a little money from slaves the majority came and comes from other products ventures.

I guess Countering Colston people find it difficult counting past 10, doubt they are able to read or understand how history works, whether good or bad [ bad things give a better understanding of what is good, and good things why bad things are bad ] incapable of research and led by the biggest mouth.
 
The hypocrisy of these ****wits is mind blowing.

If they are hell bent on boycotting all things to do with slavery, they should take a long look at their favourite rag the sainted Guardian.

Started and owned by a rich northern mill owner in 1821. The UK banned slavery in 1833 and he used his rag as his mouthpiece to promote slavery in the USA and slag off Abraham Lincoln's fight to abolish slavery, the USA the country where his slave trade cotton came from for his mills.

Boycott it all or boycott f*** all, not keep the bits they are happy to turn a blind eye to.

These people are just new world fascists trying to impose their will on everybody.
And I bet most of them go around wearing trainers or designer clobber made by child labour/slaves still being used today..Probably too thick to realise!!
 
To every question there is at least 2 ways to ask it, whether the question is based on a negative or a positive. There is at least 2 answers depending on circumstance.
Here is a question ...... Is the world a better place because of Slavery? or Is the world a poorer place because of slavery. Be careful the question is NOT was slavery right or wrong ! two simple answers could be a yes or no to either presentation. Such simple retorts would answer the question but then invite a second Question ... but why! so the answer [ Y/N ] would need some substance.
My own opinion is it made for the better! in the overall balance as things have turned out. It doesnt add or detract from my opinion about the slave trade, merely the consequences of then till now.
 
To every question there is at least 2 ways to ask it, whether the question is based on a negative or a positive. There is at least 2 answers depending on circumstance.
Here is a question ...... Is the world a better place because of Slavery? or Is the world a poorer place because of slavery. Be careful the question is NOT was slavery right or wrong ! two simple answers could be a yes or no to either presentation. Such simple retorts would answer the question but then invite a second Question ... but why! so the answer [ Y/N ] would need some substance.
My own opinion is it made for the better! in the overall balance as things have turned out. It doesnt add or detract from my opinion about the slave trade, merely the consequences of then till now.
I guess the world is a better place for some because of it, but a poorer place for others. It depends whose perspective you are looking from.