They do it with a lot of topics. They arrogantly assume others are ignorant and stupid, without realising how they're usually just flagging up their own limitations.
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They do it with a lot of topics. They arrogantly assume others are ignorant and stupid, without realising how they're usually just flagging up their own limitations.
perhaps you can post what evidence you have that Co2 is driving temperatures now when it never has in the past?
Then provide evidence for all the other woes claimed? Ocean acidification? heatwaves, hurricanes and so on, droughts, and I will show you that all these things happened and more often were worse when Co2 was below 300ppm
oh wait there is none, I smash OA studies claiming so, for breakfast. Bad weather ones too, as all are based on models and assumptions. Drought was ALWAYS worse in the past. 200 year mega droughts without the CO2 in California, 145 day long storms
Let me add my bit good man
Co2 gas has been used in welding for many years, it was always called Co2 wire welding that later went to MIG welding. Co2 is the shielding gas that protects the weld from incoming Oxygen, Nitrogen and Hydrogen that is in the atmosphere. It can cut gases coming in and out through it's solid mass. Co2 is a very cold gas and often gets called dry ice, usually with temps below -78 degrees c..
Co2 I believe can, barrier warm air going out and cool air coming in the stratos which may be adding to our crazy climate..
Just my opinion of course..
Frontiers of freedom is a good example of this.that's because they have come to conclusions first, then look for evidence.
It's meant to work the other way round.
I'm willing to bet you don't even know which of your graphs came from such a reputable source.
Let me add my bit good man
Co2 gas has been used in welding for many years, it was always called Co2 wire welding that later went to MIG welding. Co2 is the shielding gas that protects the weld from incoming Oxygen, Nitrogen and Hydrogen that is in the atmosphere. It can cut gases coming in and out through it's solid mass. Co2 is a very cold gas and often gets called dry ice, usually with temps below -78 degrees c..
Co2 I believe can, barrier warm air going out and cool air coming in the stratos which may be adding to our crazy climate..
Just my opinion of course..
That is an entirely fair and balanced position and I don't disagree.
CO2 has an effect, everything in a system affects the system.
What we dont have, is any actual explicit evidence at all that CO2 is controlling global temperatures and ZERO evidence at all it is making weather bad, or droughts worse.
ALL of the studies in attribution, that blame this or that weather event on CO2, or a drought or heatwave, ALL of them ASSUME, AGW is valid, assume.. and I learned long ago that to assume makes an ass out of u and me
You'll note, no one can say how much warming is human emissions of CO2 (3% to 5% of total yearly emissions) and how much is natural.
If you'd rather papers than graphs, that you'll actually discuss the merits of, I am happy to do that but only if you are going to be arsed in actually dealing with these papers, the methods, the omissions, identifying what is assumptions.
I did read your cited paper after all, and conclude that it offers nothing like strong evidence for anything nor does it claim to even have strong evidence
Funded by one of the biggest fossil fuel corporations on the planet.
Their evidence will be impartial then
and that attitude is why you will never be able to read and understand a paper in paleo, or understand how global temperature anomaly time series are created, or how the models were built and how they are run, what the parameterisations are, how they are configured per model.
On top of that, the history of the field, and the basis for all of the doom, the bad science, that has been swept under the rug.
New York is meant to be almost submerged in 2020, sea level at the battery in New York is dropping, and has plateaued for years.
Venice is meant to be all but gone now, even tho its actually sinking,it's still there
Maldives meant to be gone
50 million climate refugees were meant to be arriving by 2010
NONE of the doom claimed in 1988 by the climate doomers came to pass, it was all junk science and lies
Furthermore, HADCRUT 4 temp is running at James Hansen's scenario C, no emissions increases.
Polar bears are meant to be suffering
Arctic meant to be ice free already
Such ****e, all of it wrong
if your predictions are WRONG, your theory is WRONG
ALL ****ing doom has been pushed to 2100 now, because they learned not to make short term predictions because they get found out
Shhhhh!!!!Funded by one of the biggest fossil fuel corporations on the planet.
Their evidence will be impartial then
I agree with that, the science has never been proven, this was a ball hammer that was hit on us not so long ago by a few excited scientists. Probably the same people that now say as soon as you feel better then ditch the antibiotics and don't finish the course after many years of the same..
Too many people wanting to fix things that are not broken..
The bigger picture and answer to global warming is out there, I'd start with solar flares/radiation before I got to the aliens..
Funded by one of the biggest fossil fuel corporations on the planet.
Their evidence will be impartial then
Climate funding per year 2 trillion
Total oil profits per year, 100 billion approx.
Thats 200 years of total oil profits in one year of climate money, yeah, the money is in the big oil conspiracy. Sure
and also, the biggest intellectual cop out ever, muh big oil conspiracy
Which is funny given if you go to BP or Shell's websites, you can read them toting the climate line you ****tard
What made you speak when you know nothing about this? lol
I agree with that, the science has never been proven, this was a ball hammer that was hit on us not so long ago by a few excited scientists. Probably the same people that now say as soon as you feel better then ditch the antibiotics and don't finish the course after many years of the same..
Too many people wanting to fix things that are not broken..
The bigger picture and answer to global warming is out there, I'd start with solar flares/radiation before I got to the aliens..
read the climategate emails. data fraud, what they did actually fits the definition of scientific malfeasance
The IPPC decided AGW was a thing before one jot of science was done, fact
Read what the UNIPCC bureaucrats say, here's a primer
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I agree with that, the science has never been proven, this was a ball hammer that was hit on us not so long ago by a few excited scientists. Probably the same people that now say as soon as you feel better then ditch the antibiotics and don't finish the course after many years of the same..
Too many people wanting to fix things that are not broken..
The bigger picture and answer to global warming is out there, I'd start with solar flares/radiation before I got to the aliens..
Socialists, mate, those who want you to work so others can have free **** and sit on their arses, and those who get welfare will bemoan not getting more than they get, instead of getting a job
They openly state that they are doing this to redistribute wealth.
Climate funding per year 2 trillion
Total oil profits per year, 100 billion approx.
Thats 200 years of total oil profits in one year of climate money, yeah, the money is in the big oil conspiracy. Sure
and also, the biggest intellectual cop out ever, muh big oil conspiracy
Which is funny given if you go to BP or Shell's websites, you can read them toting the climate line you ****tard
What made you speak when you know nothing about this? lol
Funded by Exxon Mobil actually. You don't think they have a vested interest in promoting fossil fuels ?
You've got your head buried in the sand mate.
Funded by Exxon Mobil actually. You don't think they have a vested interest in promoting fossil fuels ?
You've got your head buried in the sand mate.
You don't know what you are talking about
Do you know how much the renewable market is worth to Exxon? trillions over a decade or two. about 400 times what they make off of oil
Do you know anything about the junk that is renewable? 75% of renewable used in the world, is burning ****, garbage and wood
ExxonMobil agrees to join oil and gas climate change alliance
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...il-gas-climate-change-alliance-global-warming
So why are they investing in renewables if there's no climate change ?
Your argument is ****ed whatever way you want to spin it
Funded by Exxon Mobil actually. You don't think they have a vested interest in promoting fossil fuels ?
You've got your head buried in the sand mate.
Do you know that Qatari oil sheiks own some of the wind farms in Britain? no?
Also
https://cleantechnica.com/2017/03/18/qatar-will-begin-construction-200-megawatt-solar-project-year/
Qatar Will Begin Construction On 200 Megawatt Solar Project This Year
The big oils are fixed to make a killing from the renewable scam
Wind mills are ancient tech and we are using them to create energy now? WTF
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That is our answer?
So why are they investing in renewables if there's no climate change ?
Your argument is ****ed whatever way you want to spin it
read what you just said...
I said, energy corps want the renewable money as it is many times what they make from oil
You say "So why are they investing in renewables if there's no climate change"
I never thought you were that stupid.. till now.
also, have you dropped the big oil conspiracy so fast? strange, you dropped it in a matter of two posts
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